Author Topic: shooting tatics (Read 2152 times)

1epic1 · « **on:** July 02, 2006, 11:47:54 PM »

whats your tatics on shooting a plane?

I like to use my MGs to weaken the wings then use one or 2 cannon rounds to take it off. Or if im in a 51 i like to aim for the cockpit, hense a easy kill

Krusty · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2006, 11:51:04 PM »

Um... not to be rude, but this is a stupid question.

Might as well ask "How do I fly?" or something equally open-ended. You know how to shoot, obviously you fly the game. If the post is a pointless one just to keep the forums active you needn't bother, they'll be active on their own accord.

How do you shoot somebody? How many raindrops are in the ocean?

Sheesh!

EDIT: I didn't intend to be rude, but as I read it I was. I make no excuses, and I leave my statement as-is.

nirvana · « **Reply #2 on:** July 03, 2006, 12:06:35 AM »

Well, I pull the trigger on my joystick and hope that the bullets land. Wash, rinse, repeat. Nothing special about it.

Raptor · « **Reply #3 on:** July 03, 2006, 12:25:20 AM »

I pull out my ruler, and find the exact length of the wingspan. I divide this by the length of the fuselage. I keep a table handy listing all of the plane lenthgs. Now I put that number into the equation X=C/SK, where C = convergence, S = speed and K = Kill number per sortie. I leave my answer as a fraction and reduce to a mixed fraction. Now I pull out the ruler again and find my calculated answer to the nearest tenth of an inch. I line up my crosshair with that point and hit every time.
As for deflection shots, well thats a whole nother ball park and I will spare you the trigonometry .

Debonair · « **Reply #4 on:** July 03, 2006, 02:16:43 AM »

there are no raindrops in teh ocean, rofl

ded · « **Reply #5 on:** July 03, 2006, 02:37:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Raptor
I pull out my ruler, and find the exact length of the wingspan. I divide this by the length of the fuselage. I keep a table handy listing all of the plane lenthgs. Now I put that number into the equation X=C/SK, where C = convergence, S = speed and K = Kill number per sortie. I leave my answer as a fraction and reduce to a mixed fraction. Now I pull out the ruler again and find my calculated answer to the nearest tenth of an inch. I line up my crosshair with that point and hit every time.
As for deflection shots, well thats a whole nother ball park and I will spare you the trigonometry .

I keep a slide-rule handy for deflection shots.

bozon · « **Reply #6 on:** July 03, 2006, 03:21:26 AM »

Krusty,
The man asked a question. If you do not have an answer or at least a funny reply, then don't give any.

If I understand the question he ment something like: short bursts, range, gamble on low prob shots etc.

It really depends on the plane and the gun package. In my P47 I take the extra ammo and go trigger happy till the counters are down to about 1000, which equals the lesses ammo load option. Then I start counting the bullets.

From than point I hardly ever fire at more than 400 yards. Being a lausy shot this is a waste of ammo. When the counter show 400 (300-500 yards) I use short 1/2 second bursts, fire and correct. At 200 or less on the counter I try to get a sustained burst in.

For crossing shots, since the P47 have good hitting power but lack the instant kill canons offer, I try to roll the plane so the target crosses from side to side instead of from up to down. This makes both sets of guns hit the same places one after the other and increase the chance of crittical damage. If the target crosses up/down than the gun sets hit different plane parts.

I also find direct 6 shots very hard so I try to get a little angle off. Too bad that in the P47 you get to see a lot of plane tulips as they easily run away from you.

The real masters are the 109 spud cannon users. If you want to learn the Zen art of patiance and gunnery, learn from them.

Reynolds · « **Reply #7 on:** July 03, 2006, 04:17:39 AM »

When i fly my 109, (im a "109 zen master" w/ my spud gun!) i like to make snap-shots at close range w/ MGs, so as not to waste cannon, and then, when i finally have the shot, i fire an aproximate 6 second burst of 30mm cannon. Or, if the opponent is far in front of me, i pop-shot. For instance, i was hunting an La-7, which was about 800 in front of me, and getting away. So, i pretty much stayed with him, and fired one cannon round at a time, a little high (to hit the tail-plane or canopy) one low (to hit the undercarage, and hope he crashes trying to land) one port (to get the port elevator stabalizer, port aileron, port wing) one starboard (starboard elevator, starboard aileron, starboard wing) and i just cycle through that, and as long as you stick with it, and he stays within 1000 meters/feet (ive never known whether its meters or feet on the display) and keep firing like that, eventually you hit the pilot, wing or engine, and they always die. As soon as someone levels out, they die. I suck at ACM, but im a pretty good shot, but the 30mm tater sure helps!

Urchin · « **Reply #8 on:** July 03, 2006, 06:51:08 AM »

If you using a 30mm, you need to get close. Then, you need to get closer. After that, get a little bit closer, then shoot. Praying some during that routine may or may not help.

Using normal guns (.50 / Hizooka) set your convergence to ~300, aim at or slightly in front of the enemy plane, and start firing when the range counter switches from 400 to 200.

Souless · « **Reply #9 on:** July 03, 2006, 08:57:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Reynolds
When i fly my 109, (im a "109 zen master" w/ my spud gun!) i like to make snap-shots at close range w/ MGs, so as not to waste cannon, and then, when i finally have the shot, i fire an aproximate 6 second burst of 30mm cannon. Or, if the opponent is far in front of me, i pop-shot. For instance, i was hunting an La-7, which was about 800 in front of me, and getting away. So, i pretty much stayed with him, and fired one cannon round at a time, a little high (to hit the tail-plane or canopy) one low (to hit the undercarage, and hope he crashes trying to land) one port (to get the port elevator stabalizer, port aileron, port wing) one starboard (starboard elevator, starboard aileron, starboard wing) and i just cycle through that, and as long as you stick with it, and he stays within 1000 meters/feet (ive never known whether its meters or feet on the display) and keep firing like that, eventually you hit the pilot, wing or engine, and they always die. As soon as someone levels out, they die. I suck at ACM, but im a pretty good shot, but the 30mm tater sure helps!

Ummm
Personally your wasting your 30mm firing from 1000 or 800 out.
Bring up your . target command set it to 400 and maintain a 6 sec burst of 30mm and see what happens to the displacement of your rounds.
Personally for me its like urchin said I have to saddle up and i dont fire till im within 200 or less for the 30mm.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:18:33 AM »

Spray and pray baby, spray and pray

Bronk · « **Reply #11 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:24:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Spray and pray baby, spray and pray

Damn it Dan who told you my technique.

Bronk

Kev367th · « **Reply #12 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:33:19 AM »

Does it actually weaken parts though?

Given that AH2 seems to be an all or nothing damage model.
i.e. You never lose part of a rudder or flap or aileron or elevator, its either there or shot off.
Is it even possible to weaken a part?

Oh and Tiffys don't weaken parts, they shred them

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Platano · « **Reply #13 on:** July 03, 2006, 01:32:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Reynolds
i fire an aproximate *6 second burst of 30mm cannon.* Or, if the opponent is far in front of me, i pop-shot. For

in a 109?!?!

Dude your wasting all your ammo..I dont even think the 30mm last that long..IMO i use the tator gun wen 200 or LESS..other than that DONT use it...30mm have crazy drop and if your gonna use it at a distance of over 200 yards its gonna be harder to hit anything... if its over 200 stick to the MG's...

Reynolds · « **Reply #14 on:** July 03, 2006, 01:40:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Souless
Ummm
Personally your wasting your 30mm firing from 1000 or 800 out.
Bring up your . target command set it to 400 and maintain a 6 sec burst of 30mm and see what happens to the displacement of your rounds.
Personally for me its like urchin said I have to saddle up and i dont fire till im within 200 or less for the 30mm.

Its no waste. I make the kill with normally about 3-4 shots spent. The La-La i was talking about was different. I sucked at aiming then, and it took me 9. But i fire only one shot at a time, and then correct.

And platano, those shots are always when the enemy is in fast motion, but not flying straight. For example he zooms across my screen 200m in front of me, in a position where i cannot follow, but CAN shoot. Im not good at those snap shots, so i just put up a wall of cannon in front of him. I find it rather effective. I only once ran out of cannon ammo in combat, and i had been killing a La La, attacking two jugs, defending against an Me-262 (bear in my mind, I only killed the La La, someone else got the Jugs), ran out of cannon trying to get the 262 on a low pass, decided to land and re-arm, and got straffed just before my weels touched ground. But other than that, i always have enough ammo.