School teachers

[lazs2]

The very nature of having one government run school system is by it's very nature...

An abuse of power.

lazs

[cpxxx]

Two things struck me about your comments Blue. One is that, according to you he was advocating religion in state schools.  

He then went on a rant to the class about how better morals should be taught in schools through religion

 Surely a no no for a teacher?

Two, it's not clear if he in fact your history teacher? If not, why was he going on about history and arguing with you, wasting everyone's time.


The only other thing I would say is that if you had the same opinions as him you would probably think he's a cool teacher. It's just a question of perception. I am quite sure there are other teachers out there who act as quasi recruiting sergeants for the military.

[Mini D]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
Teachers are all godless communistic heathen preverts.  I know because Lazs told me.

You're going to have to point to someone other than yourself as proof contrary.

[Widewing]

My ex-wife is a teacher. My oldest daughter from my second marriage is a teacher, and she's as right wing as anyone I know. An interesting contrast to the bulk of the teachers she works with in our local high school.

As for your teacher, simply state the facts. Tell him how impressed you are with his liberal arts degree...  Remind him that those who can, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't teach, teach gym and those who cannot teach gym are promoted to administrators.

Remind him also that the hiarchy of a typical school district is similar to a cesspool, inasmuch as the big turds seem to rise to the top. Tell him you expect that he will live up to his destiny and achieve a leadership position within the rarified world of public educators.

Oh, and the next time some pompous teacher suggests that joining the Navy is the easy way out, remind him that the easy way out is to avoid serving. Tell him that responsibility to something beyond his own interests builds character, as does discipline. Remind him that self-righteous windbags living on the public tit is, without doubt, a waste of taxpayer money.

My regards,

Widewing

[Toad]

^

But tell him all that after you pass his course.  

[lazs2]

and therein lies the rub.....  if you don't pretend to be awed by their left wing ideas you won't make it through the system.

lazs

[DREDIOCK]

When at war with a country there are no innocent civilians (or there are very few) As they undoubtedly support their country in time of war in one form or another.

There is only the enemy.

The best way to win a war is to make war so devastating, So terrible, So horrific on that county and its people. That they no longer are able, or willing to pursue that course of action. Even on the smallest level.


This is the word of Drediock

[Maverick]

Originally posted by lazs2
The very nature of having one government run school system is by it's very nature...

An abuse of power.

lazs

Actually you could more accurately state that it is 50 governments run the schools. There is no "national curriculum" as the states rather jealously guard their own authority to set and administer their school systems. They also license and administer the teaching credentials as well as set the standards to maintain the credentials through continuing education requirements to maintain the position. If you move from one state to another you'll have to provide your teaching education transcripts to the new state and then likely have to pass a state test to be certified to teach there.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Maverick
Actually you could more accurately state that it is 50 governments run the schools. There is no "national curriculum" as the states rather jealously guard their own authority to set and administer their school systems. They also license and administer the teaching credentials as well as set the standards to maintain the credentials through continuing education requirements to maintain the position. If you move from one state to another you'll have to provide your teaching education transcripts to the new state and then likely have to pass a state test to be certified to teach there.

Yes but if you don't do what the fed gov says ... No fed funds for you.
That's just as good as fed gov running the schools.


Bronk

[Maverick]

Not at all. Most of the school funding for public schools (HS and below) is not from the feds. It is based on the state and county budgets. Most of the money is from country education taxes and allocated on the based on the number of students in class each day. That is the real reason the schools are interested in keeping kids in class. They get paid for each desk occupied. If it were not for that aspect they would be happy to let those kids who don't want to be there go where they want. The world needs basic laborers and there is no reason to import them from Mexico instead of letting the drop outs get it done.

Now there are federal mandates for the school to adhere to things like equal education (affirmative action and so on) however the feds do not control the purse strings. They do make education incentive grants that schools can apply for but they are certainly not mandatory.

[cpxxx]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
When at war with a country there are no innocent civilians (or there are very few) As they undoubtedly support their country in time of war in one form or another.

There is only the enemy.

The best way to win a war is to make war so devastating, So terrible, So horrific on that county and its people. That they no longer are able, or willing to pursue that course of action. Even on the smallest level.


This is the word of Drediock

Are you sure, Drediock? That sounds exactly like something Osama Bin Laden might say.

[BlueJ1]

Originally posted by cpxxx
Two things struck me about your comments Blue. One is that, according to you he was advocating religion in state schools.    Surely a no no for a teacher?

Two, it's not clear if he in fact your history teacher? If not, why was he going on about history and arguing with you, wasting everyone's time.


The only other thing I would say is that if you had the same opinions as him you would probably think he's a cool teacher. It's just a question of perception. I am quite sure there are other teachers out there who act as quasi recruiting sergeants for the military.

Its a goverment class. Its 2 hours long. We were dicussing conservatism. I dont remember how we got on that subject.

As for having the same ideas as him and thinking he is a cool teacher I may think alittle less harshly of him. Bit in the long run I think its wrong for a teacher to sit in a position of power and us his class as a arena in which the students have to follow.

I did my community service requirement for the class today. So numerically I already passed. Now I just have to show up. Im just gona bring a book from now on and read.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by cpxxx
Are you sure, Drediock? That sounds exactly like something Osama Bin Laden might say.

I doubt very much he has those sorts of resources available to him to conduct that sort of warfare.

That sort of warfare would however defeat the likes of OSB.

But we worry too much. WAY too much about these so called "innocents"

They hide him, they support him. They supply him.

They are hardly "innocent"

and so what if he would say it.

Just because its something he might say doesnt make it any less true.

And if he did. Then that is the best way to defeat him.

the Nazies first used the Blitzkreig.

Just because they used it doesnt make that strategy any less valid

[Roscoroo]

Originally posted by BlueJ1
Its a goverment class. Its 2 hours long. We were dicussing conservatism. I dont remember how we got on that subject.
 Im just gona bring a book from now on and read.

Book Suggestions start here ......

[lazs2]

mav... the feds are guilty by omission.   If it is the duty of the feds to protect us from discrimantion and unfair taxation then they should mandate that vouchers be issued by the states and maybe... standards of performance met.

As it is... the states are extorting taxes and not allowing choice.