School teachers

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by BlueJ1
Seeing how long this is after I typed it i dont blame yall if you dont read it. I wouldnt. Just felt good to vent.


For most of you this is just a rant. Maybe a few of you have had experience with this before and can relate. But I need to vent. Anyways, my goverment teacher is the most opinionated teacher and overall ahole Ive ever met in my life before. Its not his beliefs I have a problem with at all. Its the way as a school teacher he puts them across. My two examples below are poor examples of how he does this. You'd have to be in the class to get the full effect.

Yesterday (Day 2 of the class), In short he told me that joining the Navy was the easy way out. I asked him when he had served his country. He had no answer. Instead he told the class that joining the military is a waste of time and taxpayers money. I chose to not argue with him because I need this class to graduate.

Today (Day 3), we got on the topic of Collin Powell's war strategy. (Overwelming force and as fast as possible) He started complaining about the number of needless civilian casualties in war. He related it to Hiroshima and Nagisaki thinking no one in his class had any idea about either besides what they read in their history class. He asked my opinion on civilian casualties in war considering I will be in the military soon. I told him that any civilians that are killed in a war is a bad thing. But, if civilians are killed when our soldiers are attacking/bombing a target to shorten the war and save more lives then its acceptable. I then related that back to the end of WWII in Japan. I told him that more civilians had died in the firebombings then they did in either attack on Hiroshima and Nagisaki. These two attacks on Japanese cities was the final blow Japan's leaders needed to surrender and end the war. Both attacks shortened the war and most likely saved thousands if not millions of more lives. He then responded with "That view on civilian deaths in war makes me angry until Im blue in the face." He then stated, "That view will come around and bite you in the butt when your in the military." I had a few choice words for him but refrianed not wanting to fail the class in the second day. He then went on a rant to the class about how better morals should be taught in schools through religion, me being the example. After class walking in the hall I had 4 kids, all about a year younger then me, shake my hand and thank me for serving our country. Ive had adults do this before but never a teenager.  They have had this teacher before and said that no matter your opinion in his class you are always wrong. he gets off on proving kids wrong.


There are a few more things that hes said and done that I was angered over. But, this one pissed me off the most. I normally always respect others point of views and political views. But, when your in a teaching position and almost force feed your views on your students I then get angry.

Tell yer teacher how the Incindary Raids of February - March 1945 killed more people than both bombs.   Ask him that if had the bombs NOT been dropped, would 10-20 million dead been acceptable?  300,000 - 350,000 vs 10,000,000 - 20,000,000.   Another thing to remind him, many of us wouldn't have known our dads or grandfathers.  My grandpa (USMC 43-46) was scheduled to go into Yokohama Bay in Nov. 1945 had they not surrendered.  

I have always let teachers like this in how they piss me off.

[red26]

You could always take the book on the art of war I dont remmember the name but its a good one. Or get a good book on Adolf Galland make shure when you read them that they are open real wide so he can see the cover of the book.  And just to be wondering what school is this teacher at? so I make shure my dauter never goes to that school. Im hoping that she makes into West Point. Or even the Naval Acadamy. Anyways Drive on there BlueJ1 and keep your head up. From one Vet to another Thanks for serving sir .

[capt. apathy]

we've all had more than our fill of those types of teachers in school.

using their possition to spout handsomehunked ideas that nobody would listen to otherwise.  or simply feeding their otherwise starving egos by ridiculing anyone who doesn't agree with them, or otherwise putting the need for them to apear or feel smart above the facts or an honest discussion.

you should be greatful for these teachers.

they are a wealth of practical experience in dealing with most of the supervisors you will encounter in your working life.

[BlueJ1]

Today I just sat in class and read my book. Its a book on Dresden. He tried a few times to pull me into a argument by using slander aganst the military. The class all recieved a newspaper and he made us read an article on the soldiers on trial for rape and murder. He made some comment about how this is common in today's military. Then he turned to me and asked me what I thought ofthat. I just told him it was his opinion and he allowed to believe what he wants. In the beginning of the class he made a statement to "wrap up" the topic from friday. He stated that the atomic attacks on Japan came after the fact the Japanese to surrender. I rolled my eyes and smiled knowing that he spent all weekend thinking up some fact so he could get the last word in.

[Masherbrum]

Damn, I feel bad for you.   That guy is a tool and is a shame he is "teaching".   Do your best to keep cool and ignore the salamander.

[Sandman]

From "For The Common Defense" by Allan R. Millett & Peter Maslowski:

"The Japanese government sensed Russia's new policy when it tried to find some third party to negotiate peace with the Allies after April 1945."

"An Allied declaration from Potsdam threatened the Japanese with worse war but also hinted at a negotiated settlement. The Japanese repsponse was equally subect to misinterpretation. Although the Japanese intent was to explore the terms, the American government thought the response a contemptuous declaration of continued war."

[BlueJ1]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Damn, I feel bad for you.   That guy is a tool and is a shame he is "teaching".   Do your best to keep cool and ignore the salamander.

The last day Im going to have a few choice words for him.

[BlueJ1]

Originally posted by Sandman
From "For The Common Defense" by Allan R. Millett & Peter Maslowski:

"The Japanese government sensed Russia's new policy when it tried to find some third party to negotiate peace with the Allies after April 1945."

"An Allied declaration from Potsdam threatened the Japanese with worse war but also hinted at a negotiated settlement. The Japanese repsponse was equally subect to misinterpretation. Although the Japanese intent was to explore the terms, the American government thought the response a contemptuous declaration of continued war."

His answer was not informed nor did he even know if his answer was right. His statement was more along the lines of the attacks happened after the war was over and that we only did them as tests to see what would happen when atomic power was used on a town/city. I shortened it so I wouldnt have to make yall yeard more.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by BlueJ1
The last day Im going to have a few choice words for him.

Your best bet is to have some words with the administration. I'd tape some of his "lessons" and have them available for corroboration. If the admin wants the tapes, make sure they only get a copy, keep the original for yourself.

Just going off on the teacher, especially before grades are posted, is not the best policy. You have no "leverage" on him to make him change his "style" of teaching or his curriculum. He knows you won't be back the next year and his position is not dependent on your satisfaction. You might also invite an associate to a couple classes, perhaps some kind of journalist. (I'm assuming this is a college class you are in right now)

[Roscoroo]

Originally posted by BlueJ1
The class all recieved a newspaper and he made us read an article on the soldiers on trial for rape and murder. He made some comment about how this is common in today's military. Then he turned to me and asked me what I thought ofthat. I just told him it was his opinion and he allowed to believe what he wants.

its not as near as bad as it used to be .. look back thru history ...

[Shuckins]

Google the terms "Operation Downfall,"  "Operation Olympic," and "Operation Coronet."

Read the casualty estimates developed by U.S. military intelligence for these invasions of Japan.

Bone up on the statistics:  Japanese army strength, numbers of suicide planes and other apparatus, home-guard militias and weaponry.

Don't remember where I read it exactly, but you should have no trouble find it, but the following statistic is stunning:  In the first few days of the invasion American invasion forces were expected to lose 1,000 soldiers an hour.  Three hours to equal what we've lost in Iraq in three years.

Make lists...memorize them...then cut your teacher off at the knees when he spouts his nonsense at you in the classroom.

Regards, Shuckins

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Shuckins
Bone up on the statistics:  Japanese army strength, numbers of suicide planes and other apparatus, home-guard militias and weaponry.

and the Japanese civi's who off themselves like they did en masse on that other island... err... can't remember its name now.

Seriously bluej1, I've had crap teachers too. It sucks. Good teachers are a rare find these days, but you do appreciate them when you find them. Take comfort in knowing this guy will never be anything more than he currently is, which he probably knows already and is the reason for his bitterness.

[BlueJ1]

I have to find info on Bush's military records tonight for tomorrow's class.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by BlueJ1
I have to find info on Bush's military records tonight for tomorrow's class.

Time to tip off your Homeland Defence department

[Shuckins]

Ask him to produce records of his own military service.   Or, failing that, ask him to produce academic records to prove that he actually holds a degree.