Author Topic: Timmothy Leary Would Be Proud (Read 728 times)

rpm · « **on:** July 11, 2006, 08:01:03 PM »

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Scientists are to investigate a hallucinogenic chemical in "magic mushrooms" as a possible new treatment for depression, anxiety and drug dependence.

The move follows an unusual study which showed that the compound, psilocybin, can prompt long lasting positive changes in mood and behaviour.

Researchers also found that people who took the chemical experienced genuine mystical experiences, as defined by psychologists.

A third of the 36 study participants described their psilocybin experience as the "most spiritually significant" of their lives.

Some likened it to the importance of the birth of their first child or the death of a parent.

Magic mushrooms, or "shrooms", come in several varieties, all of which contain psilocybin. Until last year a loophole in the law meant they were not illegal in their natural state in the UK.

Under the Drugs Act 2005 they are now classified as a Class A drug, like heroin or cocaine.

Professor Roland Griffiths, from Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions in Baltimore, Maryland, USA, led the study, the first rigorous investigation of the effects of "tripping" on a drug for decades.

Prof Griffiths said: "Under very defined conditions, with careful preparation, you can safely and fairly reliably occasion what's called a primary mystical experience that may lead to positive changes in a person. It's an early step in what we hope will be a large body of scientific work that will ultimately help people."

Prof Griffiths said human research into the potential positive effects of hallucinogen drugs had been "frozen in time" for 40 years due to the excesses of the 1960s.

A number of promising leads were left "dangling" as a result.

"Our study is among the first to re-open this field," said Prof Griffiths.

Magic mushrooms produce "trips" lasting between four and eight hours.

Users see hallucinogenic visions, lose track of time, and may experience laughing fits. Colours and lights are intensified.

Among the known adverse effects are vomiting, anxiety and paranoia. "Shrooms" are especially risky for anyone with mental problems.

Casca · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2006, 10:01:08 PM »

They are scientists and know much more than I. Whatever the potential benefits are I can authoritatively state that it is vital to avoid high stakes poker games after consuming them.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2006, 10:26:58 PM »

Some pills make you larger
Some pills make you small
It's the ones that mother gives you
That dont do anything at all
Go ask Alice

Shamus · « **Reply #3 on:** July 11, 2006, 10:28:10 PM »

I miss Peter Maxx.

shamus

Wolf14 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 11, 2006, 10:53:09 PM »

SWEET!!!!!!!

Shrooms and Yellow submarine are great combo's.

Yellow Submarine

Leslie · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2006, 12:05:05 AM »

Too dangerous! All it takes is one toadstool spore to pollinate the mushroom, and though it may look like the real thing and be the real thing, it would be poisonous.

The mushrooms we eat that we buy from the store are grown in mines, and you have to go through a decontamination room to get in from the outside. This ensures no foreign spoors get in. At least that's what I've heard.

Les

Octavius · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2006, 12:16:23 AM »

Oct will toss in a miniscule NO ****!! to the equation. Now on to more important things... such as pineal DMT.

Saintaw · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2006, 12:17:14 AM »

Uh, not thanks... last time I did that, I laughed so much (quanitatively wise) my jaw hurt for almost a week.

Leslie, didn't know that... we used to pick them up ourselves close to cow dungs in the field and wash them down with a glass of milk... no decontamination. I don't think knowing that would have turned us away from it back then though...

Octavius · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2006, 12:32:59 AM »

Saw, I think Les means common species like portobello and oyster mushrooms. A cave sounds like a good idea for mass producing them.

I dunno about the toadstool stuff. Mushrooms have a very fine underground network that can span entire fields, and the actual mushroom as the above-ground component. Not sure if other species 'migrate' and cross contaminate different species too often without external intervention (ie, deliberate mixing). You can perform a few tests to identify. Some poisonous shrooms are very similar in appearance to psylocibin containing species, so eating/waiting aint a wise test

Leslie · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2006, 01:08:46 AM »

Of course that's what I meant Octavius. Could it be any other way? I tried that stuff one time, about 4 ounces in ice cube and tea form. Was driving to Mississippi to get beer. On the way back I was seeing purple snakes on the road directly in front of the car. There was sheet lightning in the distance and a tree by the side of the road looked like a house with a mountain background, due to the clouds. These weren't sustained but were momentary.

Fortunately that didn't last too long because I was in a car driving down the interstate. We made it home in one piece. Didn't ingest enough to trip, and glad I didn't.

Les

Nash · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2006, 01:12:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Leslie
Of course that's what I meant Octavius. Could it be any other way? I tried that stuff one time, about 4 ounces....

Leslie · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2006, 01:18:56 AM »

During HS days Nash. I didn't partake except that one time. I didn't want to trip and lose control of my mind.

Les

Leslie · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2006, 04:50:38 AM »

Btw, those were 4 liquid ounces, about the size of a small cup.

Les

Jackal1 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2006, 08:21:31 AM »

Wow! Far out man.

lazs2 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2006, 08:34:18 AM »

I credit my easy going nature to the hundreds of hits of acid I did as a youth in the 70's and on.

lazs