Author Topic: new tank (Read 1233 times)

Yoshimbo · « **Reply #15 on:** July 13, 2006, 05:57:55 PM »

wut about this?

Karnak · « **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2006, 06:03:13 PM »

Yoshimbo,

The Type 5 Chi-Ri never saw combat.

Japan focused on ships and aircraft letting their tanks lag far, far behind due to the limited industrial resources they had and the combat environments they expected. The Type 5 Chi-Ri was really the first Japanese unit that could seriously be considered a tank, though it would have been a rather weak one. Those that they had built were being saved for use against the Allied invasion of Japan itself.

Yoshimbo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2006, 06:09:18 PM »

ok ok, u got me there, it was just a prototype, but still, it would be awesome though.

BUT THIS ON THE OTHER HAND WAS NOT just a prototype, it saw production and was/is consider one of the best tanks of the war, along with the t34/85.

behold....THE PANTHER...

Sum stats

Crew: 5

Combat weight: 44.8 metric tons, 46.58 with steel bogies

Length (with gun): 8.66 m

Length (without gun): 6.87 m

Width: 3.27 m (without skirt plates)

Height: 2.85 m

Road speed @ 3000 rpm: 55 km/h

Road speed @ 2500 rpm: 46 km/h

Road range: 200 km

Type: V-12, four-stroke

Power @ 3000 rpm: 700 hp

Fuel consumption (road): 3.5l/km

Fuel capacity: 720 L

Transmission: ZF AK 7-200

Gears: 7/1

Main gun: 70 calibers 7.5 cm Kwk 42

Maximum muzzle velocity: 1120 m/s

Breech: semiautomatic

Traverse: 360°, 24°/second

Elevation: +18/-8°

Rounds carried: 79, 82 on Ausf. G

Primary gun sight: Leitz TZF 12 (Ausf. D), TZF 12a (A and G)

Magnification: 2,5 and 5x

Field of view: 28 and 14°

Nemeth · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2006, 06:39:41 PM »

It would b a good addition but there r alredy 2 german tanks, no brittish, american, italian or japanise, put the sherman in first (cant really consider the LVTa4 or a fighter tank) and i belive the 85 was a post WWII tank, it was used in 1954 in the Hungarian Revolution.

I did some research, here is a page that tell you all about the tanks of WWII WWII vehicles

MWL · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2006, 06:49:34 PM »

Greetings,

Sorry, the T34/85 saw extensive service during WWII.

If we want to argue historical use, then the T34 series, 76 and 85 were the most often used. I would wager the SU 85, SU 100 and SU 57 would not be far behind - in fact they would probly lead any single model of Ger, US or English TDs in number, effectiveness or impact on the war. If total development was based on numbers or year deployed, the Soviets would dominate the vehicles in AH.

The Soviet / Nazi front was -the- significant ground front in WW II. As much as I hate to say it, the Sovs did the heavy lifting on the ground.

Regards,

Nemeth · « **Reply #20 on:** July 14, 2006, 06:59:38 PM »

I wasnt really talking bout the firepower, i was talkin bout the thin armor, a m8 could kill it with 2 or 3 rounds

MWL yes i kno the T34 saw extensive action, the crew would rather get to full speed and crash in2 the tigers and criple it that way than get in2 a fire fight, i had just thought that the T85 that was used through out the 50-70/80's i think was a totally different tank that the one used in WWII, i guess i stand corrected

Nemeth · « **Reply #21 on:** July 14, 2006, 07:10:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Ok Id go for this then.

90mm of HV AP goodness.

Bronk

Hey u think thats good check this tank out IS-3 Heavy tank
Im not gonna spoil it by telling u

And i doubt a tiger could even stand up to this gun

MWL · « **Reply #22 on:** July 14, 2006, 09:29:40 PM »

Greetings,

Naw, not corrected. The T34/85 was used in the Hungarian revolt. The the T55 was available, however the T34 was used during training to avoid wearing out the new vehicles.

To gain surprise, the invasion was conducted with thte T34s - also, the crews probly new how to operate them better!

Regards

SirLoin · « **Reply #23 on:** July 15, 2006, 02:42:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Yep, that's what Michael Wittmann and the 3 other Tigers he was with thought just before one Firefly knocked out all 4 of them.

Wittman was killed by A2G rockets(a Typhy if i remember correctly)

Bronk · « **Reply #24 on:** July 15, 2006, 10:03:50 AM »

*shakes head*
God please not again.

*runs and hides*

Bronk

E25280 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 15, 2006, 03:19:34 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
Wittman was killed by A2G rockets(a Typhy if i remember correctly)

Thouroughly disproven. Lots on the subject. Too lazy to look up exact particulars, but IIRC the first person to posit that theory (an air corps guy, wouldn't you know) didn't even see Wittmann's tank until several months later, and made his statement essentially without any facts. But the air corp types liked it because it made them look good, and the Germans didn't want to make it known that their premier tank ace in their premier tank was killed by allied armor.