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Offline xrtoronto

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« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2006, 12:12:43 PM »


the above from english-aljazz

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« Reply #76 on: July 16, 2006, 02:21:23 PM »
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the above from english-aljazz

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Funny, Hezbollah attacks Israel, and Syria backs Hezbollah, yet the U.S. is more culpable than Hezbollah and Syria. Of course, that is an AlJazeera poll. But Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if it were taken anywhere in the West.
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« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2006, 02:29:17 PM »
Hezbollah's attack didn't happen in a vacuum.

Some guys in the Gaza kidnap a couple of IDF guys.
Israel invades the Gaza strip.
Some Hexbollah guys kidnap and kill some IDF guys.
Israel invades Lebannon.

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« Reply #78 on: July 16, 2006, 02:35:10 PM »
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Israel could have contracted to buy those planes and paid for them in advance of the war.



"Operation Nickel Grass was a strategic airlift operation conducted by the United States to deliver weapons and supplies to Israel during the Yom Kippur War. The Military Airlift Command of the U.S. Air Force shipped 22,325 tons of tanks, artillery, ammunition, and supplies in C-141 Starlifter and C-5 Galaxy transport aircraft between October 12 and November 14, 1973. This rapid supply mission was critical to Israel's ability to recover from early losses in the war, and the operation is sometimes called "the airlift that saved Israel."
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« Reply #79 on: July 16, 2006, 03:35:31 PM »
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"Operation Nickel Grass was a strategic airlift operation conducted by the United States to deliver weapons and supplies to Israel during the Yom Kippur War. The Military Airlift Command of the U.S. Air Force shipped 22,325 tons of tanks, artillery, ammunition, and supplies in C-141 Starlifter and C-5 Galaxy transport aircraft between October 12 and November 14, 1973. This rapid supply mission was critical to Israel's ability to recover from early losses in the war, and the operation is sometimes called "the airlift that saved Israel."


Thanks Dan, I stand corrected.
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« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2006, 03:38:26 PM »
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Hezbollah's attack didn't happen in a vacuum.

Some guys in the Gaza kidnap a couple of IDF guys.
Israel invades the Gaza strip.
Some Hexbollah guys kidnap and kill some IDF guys.
Israel invades Lebannon.


So, as even you state, Israel is attacked, defends itself, and is attacked AGAIN, from another direction, by another group, so Israel and the U.S. are seen to be at fault more than the attackers.

Thank you for FURTHER illustrating my point, as clearly as I ever could.
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« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2006, 07:58:36 PM »
Jesus H Christ.

Lebanon has allowed a private army, funded by Iran and getting support from Syria to operate along its southern border with Israel.

They mount terror attacks and other operations against Isreal with no interference fom Lebanon.

So ya, Isreal is going to hit back. No kidding.

I can just imagine some other country in N. America or Europe being attacked like that from across a border and being told "gee, its not our fault" as a response. I wonder how that would fly if Arizona started getting rockets fired at it from Mexico, and the Mexicans said "gee wiz, sorry, we just cant control them".

???

Either Lebanon deals with Hezbollah, or Israel will, makes sense to me.
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« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2006, 08:43:53 PM »
it was an Iranian missile fired with iran rev guard help that hit the Israeli ship ...

I think that may be remembered as one of the starter sparks of the world war unfolding before our eyes ...
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« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2006, 08:47:22 PM »
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How about the massacre in the Ibrahimi Mosque in 1994?

A nut is a nut no matter what nationality.


Israeli Response:
*Goldstein's actions were immediately condemned by the Israeli government and the populace in general.
 
*Spokespeople for all of the organized denominations of Judaism denounced his act as immoral.
 
*The Kahane Chai party, to which Goldstein belonged, was outlawed by the Knesset.
 
*The cabinet agreed to take away the weapons of right-wing extremists and put them in administrative detention.
 
*The victims of the shooting received financial compensation from the Israeli government.
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« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2006, 08:48:51 PM »
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Rip'em a new one Israel!

The US Govt. wouldn't care about 3 soldiers..

Unless they held super duper sec.... :confused:


     That's sort of insulting to all the SAR guys in US service out there.
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« Reply #85 on: July 16, 2006, 08:51:45 PM »
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What makes it worse is that they intentionally place their targets inside civilian centers so any attack unfortunately causes loss of innocent life.  This has been a tactic for decades, and is coldly calculated for maximum impact on world opinion if Israel decides to strike against the Palestinians, Lebanese or anyone else.  

It's sick, they put their own innocents in peril just to make Israel look bad on the international stage.  And it looks like everyone's falling for it once again.


yep, but for some reason, you never really hear or read it reported that way ..
what I don't follow is the reporting that so many dead are civilians.. how do they know? besides the way too young (maybe < 12) and the way too old, do some have "Terrorist" tattooed on their forehead and the others don't?
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« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2006, 09:14:31 PM »
Thus far the Isrealis, according to the news, have appARENTLY killed a few dozen -100? civilians and not ONE single terrorist... wonder how that coud be:huh
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« Reply #87 on: July 17, 2006, 02:24:16 AM »
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Thanks Dan, I stand corrected.


Me too. :D
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« Reply #88 on: July 17, 2006, 03:01:59 AM »
So... couch-warriors, how is the fightin goin on? Threw an empty beer can at your TV yet?

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« Reply #89 on: July 17, 2006, 03:33:12 AM »
The difference in the way Israelis fight and the terrorists is:
Collateran damage vs maximum civilian killings.

Been so for a looong time.

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