Author Topic: This week's most interesting comment from my Japanese Fiancee (Read 3895 times)

Masherbrum · « **Reply #30 on:** July 17, 2006, 09:21:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Saxman
Although wasn't McCampbell's killboard on the starboard side of the aircraft?

On the panel below the gunsight with pencil marks.

stickpig · « **Reply #31 on:** July 17, 2006, 10:16:13 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
I'm showing my age here....

If you ever watched 'Starblazers' as a kid, they made a Japanesse version of an episode about how the "Argo" (Yamato) was sunk, which never aired.

Starblazers..... Great cartoon:aok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9A9jLHjD3c

Bronk · « **Reply #32 on:** July 17, 2006, 10:26:55 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
I'm showing my age here....

If you ever watched 'Starblazers' as a kid, they made a Japanesse version of an episode about how the "Argo" (Yamato) was sunk, which never aired.

Much like Rolex says, when we attacked and sank that ship, we came out of no where, for no reason, yada yada

I'll hunt around, something that unique must be on DVD or even YouTube by now

Wave motion gun baby.

Bronk

Raptor · « **Reply #33 on:** July 17, 2006, 10:31:59 PM »

Bombardy, show your girlfriend the Japan1 terrain and ask her what she thinks of it. I would really like to see what she thinks. P59 is Tokyo and P86 is Nagasaki.

Chalenge · « **Reply #34 on:** July 17, 2006, 11:25:38 PM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
Not true, the US found that the f6f was underpowered to combat the a6m so modifications were made immediately following the find. First of all the hellcat, pre-zero find, was going to be powered by an r2600, after they realised that wasn't enough power to give the hellcat an atvantage, the r2800 was chosen. If they hadn't found the zero the r2600 would have been used and our beloved hellcat would have probably been nicknamed the FAT wildcat! "The tactics were brutally simple, and almost foolproof: dive in, shoot, if necessary dive out of a fight--never get into a turning contest and never enter a fighter-to-fighter hassle in anything like a climb. It all worked to the extent that the Hellcat established an astounding nineteen-to-one kill vs. loss ratio in the Pacific, even better than the Corsair."

I think your info on the engine is mistaken. Grumman was not yet evaluating the Hellcat when the Navy pressed production by insisting on the most powerful engine available the R2800.

SkyRock · « **Reply #35 on:** July 17, 2006, 11:35:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Chalenge
I think your info on the engine is mistaken. Grumman was not yet evaluating the Hellcat when the Navy pressed production by insisting on the most powerful engine available the R2800.

The first hellcat had an r2600 but was not enough power. So, the r2800 was used and it gave the hellcat a 40 mph advantage over the zero at 10,000 and I think 70mph at 20,000. I need not post in these type of threads as I am definitely not the expert, just a huge fan of the hellcat!

Stoney74 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 18, 2006, 01:01:16 AM »

If you're in the land of the rising sun, swing by Nagasaki and check out the museum there. There's a timeline right at the front labled (in English) "Events Leading Up To The Atomic Bomb Attack" or something like that. THE TIMELINE STARTS IN 1943... I thought to myself when I saw that "Hey, aren't they missing some things?"

Go figure that one out...

AutoPilot · « **Reply #37 on:** July 18, 2006, 01:23:45 AM »

I read an article on POW's in PTO , in which one of them went back to japan to confront his captors.Upon his visit he went too Hiroshima and found that school children in Japan must go to that place so that they are reminded of america's war crimes.I don't know if it was all true but that sounds twisted, them thinkin that the USA droppin the bomb on them is a war crime.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 18, 2006, 01:51:52 AM »

I wouldnt say they view it as a "war crime". "Criminal", perhaps, in the sense that War robbed them of those lives. They certainly acknowledge their own culpability though. You have to understand the modern Japanese mentality that has been shaped by 60 years of Pacifism and anti-war sentiment. They certainly view the use of Atomic weapons as "evil". Only in the most recent generation can they even think of using armed force for more than just defending their borders. Or rather for expanding the definition of "defense" to include preventative action instead of waiting for the fight to come to them. Even that is hotly debated.

I'm not even sure I'm putting it into the right words. Rolex could probably explain it better, or maybe busa (but I'm not sure he even reads the boards anymore).

eilif · « **Reply #39 on:** July 18, 2006, 01:57:52 AM »

The A-bomb has always been a sensative subject that many have different oppinions on, somehow it doesnt surprise me that some feel it was a war crime. Many belive the A-bomb was totaly overkill. I personaly belive there must have been a better solution than to kill so many innocent people, let alone un-leash such a nasty weapon onto the world. I cant imagine the people who decided to drop the bomb sleep well at night, I know Einstein fealt very badly about it.

Scherf · « **Reply #40 on:** July 18, 2006, 05:17:29 AM »

My wife is a third-generation native Tokyoite.

She did junior college and has an English-teaching license.

Until I told her 2 years ago, she had no idea that there had been fire raids, or indeed any other kind of raid, on Tokyo during the war.

Phaser11 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 18, 2006, 08:03:06 AM »

Everyone missed the whole point!

WOMAN ARE EVIL!

You won't win, you might think you win, but you just lost.

Phaser11
Member "Heman womans haters club"
"I die free"

Bombardy · « **Reply #42 on:** July 18, 2006, 08:11:26 AM »

guys, track down the recent video release "the fog of war" documentary and interview with Robert S macnamara,

compared to the firebombing, the atom bombs were nothing

1 night over tokyo and 150,000 died, 60% of the city destroyed, and we did it to just about every single city, big or small, in japan.

even Macnamara said "we were behaving as war criminals"

Stoney74 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 18, 2006, 08:29:21 AM »

I don't really give much creditability to anything that comes out of McNamara's mouth. Ask Lemay what he thought.

Two books I'd recommend--"War Without Mercy" (can't remember the author), and "Thank God For The Atom Bomb" by Paul Fussel.

Saxman · « **Reply #44 on:** July 18, 2006, 08:43:16 AM »

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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
They certainly acknowledge their own culpability though.

I have a bit of a problem with this statement. This is exactly the sort of thing the Japanese (at least, the Japanese GOVERMENT) has PROBLEMS doing. Remember the whole flap last year or so about textbooks glossing over what Japan did in China and the Koreas? IIRC there's never even been an official apology until RECENTLY.

Germany and Japan both have a bit of a problem where--whether out of shame, pride, or whatever--they try to bury what they did during the war, rather than face up to it.

Which don't the Japanese have a shrine honoring the leaders executed for war crimes as heroes?