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Offline stephen

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prob a repeat, Mosquito bomber.
« on: July 25, 2006, 04:08:43 PM »
Currently the Mossie is a rather weak attacker {the guns are murder though!}, though I occasionaly fly it I still am holding out for the bomber version with increased payload/speed at altitude.

 I believe I read somwhere that the Mossie could carry the same 4000 pnd bomb as the Lancaster.....{DROOOL}, though I realise it would take a bit of doing to graphicly incorperate the bomb, it would be just fantastic I think, emagine an HQ raid of lvl bombing 4000 pnd equipt Mossies!!!!

really im looking for a fit between the B26 Marauder, and the P-47 Thunder Bolt, anyone know of such an aircraft?:confused:
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2006, 04:15:07 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2006, 05:07:21 PM »
I would love a bomber mossie varient.  I would definately fly it

To be honest i would prefer a mossie with merlin 25s with +18 boost.  I'm sure mossies were only cleared for 4 x 500lb bombs when 25s with + 18 were introduced into service.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2006, 05:26:53 PM »
Stephen,

There were many versions of Mosquito bombers.

The first, the B.Mk IV, topped out at 380mph at 21,000ft or so and carried four 500lb bombs internally.  Powered by two Merlin 21s it suffered a severe performance hit when modified to carry the 'cookie'.

The first Mosquito bomber designed to carry the 'cookie' was the B.Mk XVI, powered by counter rotating Merlin 76/77 engines it had a top speed of 416mph at 27,000ft.


Thrila,

The Mosquito in AH has Merlin 25s at +18lbs boost (all Merlin 25s ran at +18lbs boost or higher).

The problem it has re due to the flame dampers which have no effect in AH other than to make it 10-15mph slower and the CoG bug that will be addressed when it is redone.  Hopefully the dampers can be removed too as Mossie 6s used in daylight ops, which is all that we have in AH, did not have them.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2006, 05:54:20 PM »
The Mossy with the 6lb. cannon in the nose

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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2006, 06:04:56 PM »
So is the boost guage in AH broken?  I could have sworn WEP only hits +14  in AH.

I know all too well about the CoG bug, i remember my first ever dive bomb in AH2 beta with the mossie. :D
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2006, 06:08:48 PM »
Remember, you can't get full boost at all altitudes.  It depends on how much pressure the blower is making up.
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2006, 06:39:44 PM »
What altitude would the mossie get +18?  i jsut checked 7k and 13k which is when i would expect it to hit max boost atleast at one of them.  Neither does the mossie ever hit +18, tho it does hit + 16 @ 13k and +14 @ 7k.  

I can honestly say i have never seen the mossie hit +18 and i fly the mossie a lot.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2006, 10:34:17 PM »
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The Mossy with the 6lb. cannon in the nose


Thats not a Mozzie, thats a Tse Tse Fly. And it will never happen. HTC has said as much.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2006, 01:19:57 PM »
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Thats not a Mozzie, thats a Tse Tse Fly. And it will never happen. HTC has said as much.

It was a Mosquito, the Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII to be specific.  "Tse tse" was the nick name pilots gave it.

And yes, it will never be added.
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2000 lb internal load ,and no guns, would add a spot of speed to the critter, I've been thinking about it for a while now, and it would be my undying pleasure to use it as a town killer.

I wonder....., if implimented would it be a "Formation" of mossies?
The possibilitys stagger the mind. :eek:

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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2006, 07:59:56 PM »
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I can honestly say i have never seen the mossie hit +18


Nor have I, thrila. Thought it was just a bug/oversight, but then who am I to say?
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I wonder....., if implimented would it be a "Formation" of mossies?
The possibilitys stagger the mind. :eek:

ok fantasy times is over....


If they added glass-nosed Mozzies...with formations...I would be a VERY happy fuzzball.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2006, 08:50:08 AM »
Mossies and flame dampers -

Intial batch FB VI all had them, but they didn't have rocket rails.

From second batch on no Mossie FB VI were delivered with flame dampers, and had rocket rails.
Although the dampers could be fitted for night ops.

So as ours has rocket rails (2nd batch) and there is NO night in the MA, remove the flame dampers.

In addition a B model would be nice as well as one of the NF's.

In reality most Mossie raids were a combination of FB's and B's.

As for B models with formation option - Bad idea, they had no defensive armament, and although very fast in their time, too easily caught by the late war monsters in the MA.

B XVI with a 4k Cookie option would be a nice touch, just needs the bomb bay doors bulged a little on the remodel. Could also carry 6x500 instead.

Go as far as suggested line-up

FB VI - no flame dampers
BVI - with 6x500lbs or cookie options (dont think a B IV would get any use)

plus perhaps an NF30.

What would be real nice (thinking ahead) - Optional flare loadout for Pathfinder missions.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2006, 09:08:25 AM »
Think I've posted these before, but a reminder of some of the Mossies achievements -

1) Mossie holds the record for the most combat missions of WWII.
2) Mossie holds record for highest ever nightime photograph of WWII.
3) First twin engind plane to land on CV.
4) Lowest loss rate of any aircraft in RAF Bomber Command.

Still makes you wonder how the hell a 'Cookie' bomb fitted in a Mossie -

« Last Edit: July 27, 2006, 09:11:34 AM by Kev367th »
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