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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #150 on: August 05, 2006, 11:35:36 AM »
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I BELIVE my statement is 100% accurate. I have no sympathy for those people. These are the same people that were dancing in the streets on 9/11.

You think I'm going to cry for someone who lets a terrorist set up a rocket launcher in their backyard, and then has their house targeted as a launch site, and blown up??? Piss on em.


Not even the Israelis themselves or your own government belives that there are no innocent victims in Lebanon. On what grounds do you base your statement?

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« Reply #151 on: August 05, 2006, 12:46:31 PM »
As neubob says:
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If the Arabs stopped fighting, if the Arabs stopped plotting, it would mark the beginning of the end of the violence.

If the Israelis stopped fighting, it would mark the beginning of the end of Israel.


That is the crux of the issue. Israel would cease to exist if they failed to defend themselves. Whether you or I or any Israeli citizen feels uncomfortable with the IDF's methods is neither here nor there.  It's all very well sitting in safe comfortable liberal countries like Norway and criticising Israel's actions.  Israel is a tiny country surrounded by countries ruled by despots and extremists sworn to destroy it and peopled by fanatics willing to try.

You need to ask yourself, how you would feel if you lived in a country like Israel.

The current Israeli strategy is obvious, go into Lebanon and destroy as much of Hizbollah as possible and create a buffer zone to be filled with a multinational force as soon as the ceasefire is forced on them.  

It is a tragedy that innocent civilians are dying. I heard that Lebanese neighbour of my Mother's lost her entire family in a raid. That is a tragedy on any level. But it's also war and as long as people want to make war on Israel.  This will continue.

Israel is not America or Britain or whoever. It does not attack other countries in order reform  them or protect oil supplies. It's only strategic interest is to survive.

When Israel is left in peace there will be peace.

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« Reply #152 on: August 05, 2006, 12:49:34 PM »
Nilsen,

He gave you his grounds for that statement and you even quoted it. :rolleyes:


He's just taken a stand that's 180 degrees from yours, it kinda ballances out.
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« Reply #153 on: August 05, 2006, 01:05:55 PM »
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Did you even remotely think before you had diarhea of the fingers with this comment?  :rolleyes:

They were given land were they not?
"Terrorism" started RIGHT after State of Israel was proclaimed.
You woulndt like if Alaska was given back to bunch of drunken Russians would you?Or lets give Britain back to Rome.Half Russia back to Mongolians.
Arabs call UN "terrorists" and i see why.
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« Reply #154 on: August 05, 2006, 01:09:05 PM »
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Originally posted by Hornet33
I BELIVE my statement is 100% accurate. I have no sympathy for those people. These are the same people that were dancing in the streets on 9/11.

You think I'm going to cry for someone who lets a terrorist set up a rocket launcher in their backyard, and then has their house targeted as a launch site, and blown up??? Piss on em.

How Christian of you,what a nice guy
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« Reply #155 on: August 05, 2006, 01:10:26 PM »
His statements are about as Christian as yours are Jewish kgb.
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« Reply #156 on: August 05, 2006, 01:24:33 PM »
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His statements are about as Christian as yours are Jewish kgb.

Yeah thats true:)
Well Christians killed more people than any other religion.
Proud to be christian:aok
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« Reply #157 on: August 05, 2006, 01:41:20 PM »
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Not even the Israelis themselves or your own government belives that there are no innocent victims in Lebanon. On what grounds do you base your statement?


I never claimed to speak for the Israelis or the United States. I mearly stated my own personal beliefs. I have no sympathy for those people. Their entire culture has brought this on them. How many Jews have strapped TNT to their bodies and blown up a bus full of Muslims???? How many Americans have done it???

The Israelis are faced with the extinction of their entire race if they stand down and do nothing. The leaders of Hezbolla, the president of Iran, Bin Laden, and a whole cast of other Islamic crazies have PUBLICLY cried out for the utter destruction and elimination of Israel and all Jews everywhere on the planet. Now people all over the world are crying, saying that the Jewish response to this current crisis is too much. Bull$%^&!!!!!

How would you feel if someone kidnapped your children?? Would you be willing to kill to get your children back?? Those 2 soldiers that got taken aren't just soldiers to the Jewish people, they are SONS of Israel, and Israel is willing to kill to get their sons back. I applaud the Israelis total commitment to getting them back, and giving the rest of the world the finger if they don't like it. I only WISH America had the same amount of balls they do.

So you tell me WHY I should feel any sort of sympathy towards a group of people that support anouther group of people (terrorist) that belive Genocide is not only OK, but Gods will??? These extreamist are the most dangerous people on the planet. They don't care who they kill in order to see their twisted version of Gods will brought to reality. Do you want to live in a world where a young woman is put to death by the state because she killed a man in SELF DEFENSE who was trying to rape her???? That crazy bastard in Iran does...they just did it.

I have nothing against Islam, it's a peacefull religion, but the people the Israelis are dealing with don't belive in the peacefull version of Islam do they?? I don't blame the Israelis one little bit for using everything in their considerable arsenal to defend themselves and to get their sons back.

Like I said in my other post, If those people over there would police the crazies in their midst, they wouldn't have the Israelis bombing their towns and cities. They brought it on themselves and they are getting what they deserve. This is my opinion and I belive I am 100% on target...prove me wrong and I might listen.
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« Reply #158 on: August 05, 2006, 02:12:10 PM »
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Yeah thats true:)
Well Christians killed more people than any other religion.
Proud to be christian:aok


Unless you count communism/atheism which has killed more people than everything else combined.

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« Reply #159 on: August 05, 2006, 02:18:00 PM »
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How many Jews have strapped TNT to their bodies and blown up a bus full of Muslims???? How many Americans have done it???
the Israelis are faced with the extinction of their entire race if they stand down and do nothing.How would you feel if someone kidnapped your children??

Aha-ha-ha!:rofl
Americans never killed civilians nor did Jews:rofl
Omg,i cant stop....
"extinction of their entire race" -awwww
Those inocent Israely children,it melts my heart,Israel teaches love and peace....but never hate
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« Reply #160 on: August 05, 2006, 02:25:40 PM »
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Unless you count communism/atheism which has killed more people than everything else combined.

Commies are cristians as well(mostly) my friend.
You mean Nazis???
Atheism???How the hell did you come up with this one?
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« Reply #161 on: August 05, 2006, 02:30:05 PM »
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Commies are cristians as well(mostly) my friend.
You mean Nazis???
Atheism???How the hell did you come up with this one?


I'm talking about Stalin who murdered at least 20 million, probably a lot more. Atheism was the official "religion" of the USSR during his reign of terror. I think the numbers of those murdered by communists go well above the 100 million mark. Doesn't that disturb you?

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« Reply #162 on: August 05, 2006, 03:27:32 PM »
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I'm talking about Stalin who murdered at least 20 million, probably a lot more. Atheism was the official "religion" of the USSR during his reign of terror. I think the numbers of those murdered by communists go well above the 100 million mark. Doesn't that disturb you?


Atheism was official  after revolution to beginning of ww2.
After that Churches  reopenned.
They have a saying "there are no atheists on battlefield"
You have any data on those 100 million?I'm curios
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« Reply #163 on: August 05, 2006, 03:34:43 PM »
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Atheism was official  after revolution to beginning of ww2.
After that Churches  reopenned.
They have a saying "there are no atheists on battlefield"
You have any data on those 100 million?I'm curios


Maybe you could come up with some figures on how many people were murdered by Christians?
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« Reply #164 on: August 05, 2006, 04:13:11 PM »
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Maybe you could come up with some figures on how many people were murdered by Christians?



quick check on wikipedia

" it is estimated some 3 000 000 people has been killed because of heresy in the Medieval and Early Modern Europe"