Author Topic: ww2 OL 7 day free trial and d/l (Read 1350 times)

Nifty · « **Reply #45 on:** January 09, 2002, 10:19:00 AM »

Westy, your most recent post you forgot to mention the infantry portion. None of the other games you mentioned has infantry. Now, if you're just talking in terms of goals, then yes, you're right. The methods of achieving the goals are different though. In AH you can use nothing but fighters and a goon and capture territory. You can also use ground vehicles if you so desire. In WWIIOL, you have to use infantry to take the base, but usually, you need some support from at least ground vehicles. Of course, I haven't played since they went pay to play, so I don't know if this is still the case.

Your other points are very much valid.

Swulfe, you're right, every release does get them closer to what was originally promised. However, doesn't that make it better than the state in which it was originally released?

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #46 on:** January 09, 2002, 10:33:00 AM »

Sure, it makes it better.... but everyone uses that in a positive way.

Like "It's good now, but it's getting better!", when they should say, "Well, atleast it's almost what it should of been 6 months ago."
-SW

K West · « **Reply #47 on:** January 09, 2002, 11:00:00 AM »

"In WWIIOL, you have to use infantry to take the base, but usually, you need some support from at least ground vehicles."

Not really. You only need one sneaky trooper to get in and bump the table to get an emmediate mass of army spawning.

I'd not forgotten infantry. Soldier, infantry or a bailed pilot with .45 is all *basically* the same. I' thought I had mentioned that by saying WB's had it first but since WB's is a fight/air combat sim why would they develop it further? I must have missed that thought -> to hand -> to typed text phase with that one

After six months I'm not sure why I can still type out a wall-of-text post in response to a post like Jochens. Maybe because I'd had high hopes for WW2O too? And while I'm happy (and was with AH) I still was eccited at the thought of having a real fun war sim to play too. But I remember watching what amounted to someone hyping up thier project, with creative embellishment and fluffy PR, to back up thier claim that they got it all figured out on how to make a water rocket reach the moon. But while gazing skyward all that happened was a quick crash that followed that so brief a "woosh". And I keep hearing every four weeks or so how they made a fix and how it will make the thing go ever higher and higher. Well sorry. They've yet to clear the roof line let alone reach the clouds. Forget the moon at this point.

Westy

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Nifty · « **Reply #48 on:** January 09, 2002, 02:44:00 PM »

hmm, I thought they were gonna change the way towns changed hands, like needing more than 1 infantry in the town. Guess I dreamt that one up! My mistake there, Westy.

Yup, Swulfe. Actually, 6 months ago shoulda still been beta testing. They should not have released until the game was stable (in other words stress test, possibly with full open beta phase) and then should have indicated on the box exactly what was in the game at the time of going gold, mentioning features (like boats) would be included in future updates. But of course, that's all hindsight, and moot. They (CRS, Strategy First, and Playnet) screwed up the release in many ways. Some people can't get over that, and that's their perogative. To me, if it's fun, I'll pay to play. When it went pay to play, it wasn't fun enough for me to pay $10/month. I doubt it will be when the trial comes out, but I'll give it a chance.

Czpetr · « **Reply #49 on:** January 10, 2002, 03:30:00 AM »

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Originally posted by O'Westy:
"In WWIIOL, you have to use infantry to take the base, but usually, you need some support from at least ground vehicles."

Not really. You only need one sneaky trooper to get in and bump the table to get an emmediate mass of army spawning.

That`s not so easy now. You probably played it a long time ago. If you want to spawn army in contested town you have to capture army base and I guarantee it`s not possible with one snaky trooper. You need the support of heavy weapons. And you need to capture all town flags to spawn "mass of army", until that, you can spawn just troops and AT guns.

"And each update makes WWIIOL better and better."

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Originally posted by SWulfe:

You mean closer to what it was advertised as, right?

Seriously, you can't believe you are getting some great new updates that are making WWIIOl so much better- all the updates are just making the game what it should of been at the release.
-SW

I knew that the game features doesn`t match to what was advertised to public at release so from my point of view - each update makes WWIIOL really better and better.

czpetr

gatt · « **Reply #50 on:** January 10, 2002, 07:02:00 AM »

Udie,
sorry but WW2OL cockpits are IMHO the worst around, pretty useless. There was room to design and put nice gauges into those cockpits, but only God knows why they didnt.

I've been around the board for a while (even the beta tester's one) and really the FM is the last thing they are worried about. The result is there: Ju87's dogfighting and winning against RAF fighters.

Nice graphics, terrains, land objects and tanks war. A big delusion for me: I love online flight sims. I canceled my account just few days ago after, lets say, 20 updates?

Udie · « **Reply #51 on:** January 10, 2002, 07:23:00 AM »

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Originally posted by gatt:
Udie,
sorry but WW2OL cockpits are IMHO the worst around, pretty useless. There was room to design and put nice gauges into those cockpits, but only God knows why they didnt.

I've been around the board for a while (even the beta tester's one) and really the FM is the last thing they are worried about. The result is there: Ju87's dogfighting and winning against RAF fighters.

Nice graphics, terrains, land objects and tanks war. A big delusion for me: I love online flight sims. I canceled my account just few days ago after, lets say, 20 updates?

Yeah if your in it only for the flight aspect, you're not going to be happy. I like the ground part myself. I get off on killing 20 dudes w/ my AA gun

That said I haven't even played it in 2 weeks. The game play is slow, but gets exciting for short burst. Right now I need more instant gradification

. I still like the game though and can see past the phucked up release. I hope they make it...

K West · « **Reply #52 on:** January 10, 2002, 07:36:00 AM »

I'd like to use an anti-tank gun again. With the changes that have ben made it may be more worth trying now. Although I do think they'd be better off implementing AI truck drivers to haul people and equipment around with. I'm not too keen on thumbing and begging for rides

Westy