Author Topic: Total war tactics vs Current limited engagement tactics (Read 1623 times)

Wolfala · « **Reply #30 on:** August 05, 2006, 02:27:29 AM »

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Originally posted by KgB
2600 US troops are dead,300 billion spent.
Any results Gentlemen?
Can anybody even answer why midle east hates Unated States?
Does anyone even know?

Its easier to spell check yr flames. And keep it on topic - the discussion is Total War vs Limited Engagement. Not how public sentiment around the globe is.

Wolf

Ghosth · « **Reply #31 on:** August 05, 2006, 05:19:17 AM »

2600 US troops are dead,300 billion spent.
Any results Gentlemen?
Can anybody even answer why midle east hates Unated States?
Does anyone even know?

Sure, Western Culture threatens their entire existance.
Islamic Culture has for some 2000 years kept females in veils,
powerless, voiceless. But those same females see western women running for office, running companys, running households. Makeing their own decisions, being there own persons. Doing pretty much whatever they want to do when they want to do it.

The Islamic men not being total idiots realise that once the Genie is out of the bottle they are toast, burnt toast. So they will do ANYTHING to prevent this. Including attempting to kill, destroy, fold, spindle or mutilate western culture.

So they point at western culture, say it must die. And sacrifise some young idiots
by telling them if they become martyrs they will live in paradise.

And in the meantime the woman are kept down, kept in the bottle, so 2000 year traditions can continue. So they can remain in control. Because if the genie ever got out of the bottle, in 10 years every islamic man would be sleeping with the camels. And they know it.

As to Iraq, for the FIRST time in recorded history, the US is NOT dropping Iraq like a hot potato as soon as the war is won. We have a long history in this region, and not much of it is good. We are paying the price for that history.

Heck we are paying the price for not killing saddam 12 years ago when we had the chance.

AWMac · « **Reply #32 on:** August 05, 2006, 06:57:13 AM »

You want to shake the World up? Here's a plan...
In 4 hours you pull every American troop outta Iraq...grabs the Worlds attention.
Drop 2 Nukes on Tehran and Damascus...
Send the troops back into Iraq and rush Syria and Iran.
Syria wouldn't know whether to scratch their watches or wind their arses.
Iran would puppy down..internal revolution.
Egypt and Saudi would step back.

Mac

KgB · « **Reply #33 on:** August 05, 2006, 07:50:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Wolfala
Its easier to spell check yr flames. And keep it on topic - the discussion is Total War vs Limited Engagement. Not how public sentiment around the globe is.

Wolf

Whats gotten into you?

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 05, 2006, 08:08:18 AM »

Unfortunately, we haven't fought a war how it should be done since WW2. We are afraid to get dirty and to crack some skulls. It's a shame we turned into such *******.

Maverick · « **Reply #35 on:** August 05, 2006, 01:22:21 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Unfortunately, we haven't fought a war how it should be done since WW2. We are afraid to get dirty and to crack some skulls. It's a shame we turned into such *******.

Frankly I think you are partially true. It's more the fault of the media IMO than anything else. The military has the means and the will, the media will do whatever it thinks it can to deny the public's backing and undercuts it with most broadcasts.

The politicians who voted for it need to get themselves out of the backstabbing mode of mind and get on with business. Once the conflict is over they can go back to gleefully cutting each others throats like a bunch of high school drama queens. That way troops aren't subject to their support, inadvertant or overt, of the enemy.

Hornet33 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 05, 2006, 02:07:37 PM »

You know, we have all these B2 bombers out at Whiteman AFB. We should put a couple of them back on Crome Dome alert status armed with JDAM's. Let the enire world know they're up there flying around and anytime a terrorist event happens, a JDAM is going to fall out of the sky. Totaly random.

The message: You kill one of us, we will kill 100 of you.

Maverick · « **Reply #37 on:** August 05, 2006, 02:53:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Hornet33
You know, we have all these B2 bombers out at Whiteman AFB. We should put a couple of them back on Crome Dome alert status armed with JDAM's. Let the enire world know they're up there flying around and anytime a terrorist event happens, a JDAM is going to fall out of the sky. Totaly random.

The message: You kill one of us, we will kill 100 of you.

Seeing the news reports of the demonstrations in Baghdad in support of hezbollah I think that idea of your would have worked out real well.

A couple of 500 lb'ers might have reduced the number of "insurgents and sectarian agitators"...........

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #38 on:** August 05, 2006, 03:09:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Hornet33
Let the enire world know they're up there flying around and anytime a terrorist event happens, a JDAM is going to fall out of the sky. Totaly random.

The message: You kill one of us, we will kill 100 of you.

If totally random, 70% chance falling into the ocean and killing fish. 20% falling in some uninhabited part of the earth and killing penguins, walrus, or scorpions.

Better if targeted.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 05, 2006, 07:43:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Hornet33
You know, we have all these B2 bombers out at Whiteman AFB. We should put a couple of them back on Crome Dome alert status armed with JDAM's. Let the enire world know they're up there flying around and anytime a terrorist event happens, a JDAM is going to fall out of the sky. Totaly random.

The message: You kill one of us, we will kill 100 of you.

If I was president, the very very very first thing I would do is tell the muslim world this:

Muslims, if any single one of you commits a terroristic act against America and our Property, we will drop a nuke on Mecca. So this is your first and only warning. Get your people in check.

Trikky · « **Reply #40 on:** August 05, 2006, 08:41:51 PM »

Let me guess, the 2nd thing you'd do is change your title to 'Supreme Being and Ruler of the Universe' ??

Seriously, you sound as mad as Osmad the Mad BinMaden.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 05, 2006, 09:14:16 PM »

You obviously disagree with my methods. But now the question is turned to you.

How would you deal with the muslim problem?

Shifty · « **Reply #42 on:** August 05, 2006, 09:32:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Trikky
Let me guess, the 2nd thing you'd do is change your title to 'Supreme Being and Ruler of the Universe' ??

Looks better evry time I read it.

-tronski- · « **Reply #43 on:** August 06, 2006, 05:02:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Hornet33

The message: You kill one of us, we will kill 100 of you.

That message has been sent for a few years now...and it doesn't seem to work now does it

Tronsky

Vudak · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2006, 05:19:59 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
You obviously disagree with my methods. But now the question is turned to you.

How would you deal with the muslim problem?

There are honest, hard working, Muslim Americans. You can't just go and nuke Mecca

Now firebombing a non-super-holy city or two from the state which produced/aided the terrorists of a particular operation, yeah, that could work

Think about it... The middle east, with hot days and windy nights. Can anyone say "firestorm?"