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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2006, 02:15:52 PM »
hmm... still wondering about the so called "hidden agenda"

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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2006, 02:35:51 PM »
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hmm... still wondering about the so called "hidden agenda"

They hid it in a poor place, right out in the open.

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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2006, 03:43:41 PM »
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They hid it in a poor place, right out in the open.


what agenda

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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2006, 03:52:58 PM »
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what agenda

Tainted photographs, slanted reporting, taking sides, altering the appearance and/or reporting of facts through omission or comission...known in some circles as...propoganda.

In the specific case of Reuters/AP/CNN/Al-Jazeera it is as simple as Hezbolla=good Israel=bad.

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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2006, 04:27:54 PM »
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...In the specific case of Reuters/AP/CNN/Al-Jazeera it is as simple as Hezbolla=good Israel=bad.


I don't know about all that.  It seems to me the agenda=sensationalistic journalism sells more advertising spots.

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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2006, 05:07:47 PM »
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Tainted photographs, slanted reporting, taking sides, altering the appearance and/or reporting of facts through omission or comission...known in some circles as...propoganda.

In the specific case of Reuters/AP/CNN/Al-Jazeera it is as simple as Hezbolla=good Israel=bad.


based on that picture alone, or do you have other proof of that agenda?

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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2006, 05:47:56 AM »
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based on that picture alone, or do you have other proof of that agenda?

The proof is in the pudding, all one can do is provide examples:
http://aish.com/jewishissues/mediao..._in_Lebanon.asp

As far as being biased versus sensationalistic is concerned...

When I see the same things done from the other side of the conflict I'll accept that they are being sensationalistic. Show them to me.

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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2006, 06:25:54 AM »
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The proof is in the pudding, all one can do is provide examples:
http://aish.com/jewishissues/mediao..._in_Lebanon.asp

As far as being biased versus sensationalistic is concerned...

When I see the same things done from the other side of the conflict I'll accept that they are being sensationalistic. Show them to me.


The story you are linking to is from a jewish site. Is that supposed to prove anything? Not saying the site is not reliable because I know nothing about it but still.. you know what i mean.

My point is... how do you translate an edited picture taken by a freelace photojournalist into an "agenda" by Reuters?
When you use freelacers there is a sertain risk, so i would say that this is a hint that maybe the desk at Reuters have missed that it was edited and are guilty of not double checking photos. If this was part of an "agenda" then Reuters are amateurs. They should have made batter fakes when they sit and plan their "agenda".. Its too poorly planned and excecuted by Reuters to make it part of an "agenda". If it had been a 5th rate news blog on the web than maybe.

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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2006, 07:22:03 AM »
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The story you are linking to is from a jewish site. Is that supposed to prove anything? Not saying the site is not reliable because I know nothing about it but still.. you know what i mean.

Of course I do, and your point is valid. But consider please that it takes one bias to be willing and/or able to illustrate another. We expect media sources that claim to be unbiased to be...UNBIASED. Whatever became of the investigative reporter who only sought to report truth? I know bias occurs in both directions, it just irks me when it comes from those who claim no bias, a claim which I did not see on the jewish website.
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My point is... how do you translate an edited picture taken by a freelace photojournalist into an "agenda" by Reuters?
When you use freelacers there is a sertain risk, so i would say that this is a hint that maybe the desk at Reuters have missed that it was edited and are guilty of not double checking photos.

If I saw the same thing being done towards or from both sides (by Reuters/AP/etc.) I'd agree, so far I'm only seeing the bias toward one side of this conflict. I'm keeping my mind open to the possibility that it is happening both ways, but so far nobody has shown me such, hence I say they are biased in favor of Hezbollah.

I use the term bias in place of the one I truly beleive to be the case, willing mouthpeices of the Hezbollah/AlQaeda/Hamas/PLO propoganda machines. But my beleifs are simply my own bias, which is okay since I make no claims to be unbiased. This whole mess has come down to an us-against-them to me.