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Offline LYNX

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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2006, 07:26:33 PM »
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How did HOs work in real life?

Not done..it's suicide?
Only when the numbers were against you.
It didn't happen at all.


watched a show about Brit aces and one old timer said he went HO every time a con came at him from the sun.  He didn't see he shot anything but the geezer is stil here telling the tales.

Personally I take HO shots when I'm in the crap 3 on 1 typer thing but Lgay freaks are so easy to out turn in a 1 on 1.....usually kill um.
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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2006, 07:33:36 PM »
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yea LA7 is Great TurnFighter if you know how to abuse it lol, You can almost turn with a Spit16 if you work the Engine right >=P


You CAN turn with a Spit16... Their turn radius is nearly identical, but the La-7 gets around the circle faster, meaning that it will eventually close from behind. It does, however, take a pretty good pilot to fly the La-7 at its limits, where a somewhat less skilled jock can do the same with the Spit16.

Of course, the 109G-2 is a match for either.... Especially when at or below 150 mph.

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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2006, 07:39:56 PM »
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VERY true and some flaps will turn inside a niki.  I'm just so glad the thing has poor gas to miles.   Them nasty in the right hands.

Spits.... try and stay with a spit when it does 180 over it's right shoulder...ooopps enough said :D


With equal pilots, the N1K2-J will easily out-turn either the La-7 or the Spit16. The Niki can dominate the 109F-4 in a stall-fight, and the 109F-4 owns the Spit16 and La-7 in a low speed turning contest.

Come to the TA some evening gents, and be enlightened...  ;)

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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2006, 10:12:18 PM »
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Originally posted by 1K3
Yak 3 is no faster than La-7.  Yak-3 has the same engine as the standard Yak-9 or Yak-9T (VK-105) but it is as light as the A6M zero


Yak-3 began with the VK-105 but later on had the VK-107 and was faster than the Yak-9 or La7. I suspect only a Russian could explain why the -3 was refined along different lines than the -9 but built at the same time. Makes no sense to me but thats what Im reading.

Ask yourself how a lighter plane with the same engine goes no faster? It also had less frontal area a cut down fuselage and oil cooler in the wing rather than under the chin.
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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2006, 10:17:06 PM »
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Originally posted by FALCONWING

when i see guys type about being ho'd by a la7 i hafta ask myself why did they not decide before less then 1k out to maneuver for anything else???
is plain goofy..then i realize that most guys who hate the la7 and whine about ho's are skilless pilots and darwin is smiling as they die...



It doesnt take much imagination to see circumstances in which the La7 could ho a plane that cant turn away. A plane diving on a field to drop ord on a target can be hit ho very easily. I love doing it to diving arados for instance. There is nothing they can do to avoid my fire aside from shedding their wings.
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2006, 10:53:14 PM »
The Yak-3 with the VK107 engine is a Korean War fighter.  It missed WWII.
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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2006, 11:00:07 PM »
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This post is about people complaing that the la7 and spit16 aren't good enough????????


yes this particular breed of person is called "homosexual"
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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2006, 11:13:12 PM »
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The Yak-3 with the VK107 engine is a Korean War fighter.  It missed WWII.


Really? Service deliveries began in January 1944 is what Im reading. In July of 1944 a force of 18 Yak-3 (107s) met 30 LW fighters a mix of 109s and 190s and shot down 15 for the loss of one Yak. The Normandie-Niemen Group changed from the Yak-9 to the Yak-3 (107s) and their last 99 kills of a 273 kill tally were with that plane.
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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2006, 11:27:52 PM »
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Come to the TA some evening gents, and be enlightened...



WORD!!!!!!


The man knows his stuff and has absolutley no problem showing you.You do learn something everyday.
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« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2006, 12:23:59 AM »
ditto. I felt like a noob all over again after a few brief sorties against him. On the upside, I did get him to dip a wingtip in the drink... once. The other 10 times, I just got shot quite a bit.
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« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2006, 12:48:27 AM »
omg all i ever see in the H2H are la7s and Spit16s, and the #@%(*^! C-Hogs won't leave my poor nikie alone:cry

is there a way to activate the whole perk thing in a H2H rooms? so sum1 can't up a perked plane till they get "x" amount of kills?

No doubt the the La7 and the Spitfire mk 16 are exceptional planes, it's that i'm just seein way too many of em, how bout sum variety?

maybe i'll just deactivate them in my rooms.

or maybe i should go to bed.
 
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« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2006, 01:28:10 AM »
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maybe i'll just deactivate them in my rooms.


The only reason i leave the Spit16 on in my room is because it carry's rockets and we use it for the jousting scenario's.

I did how ever see a spit-16 come up behind a set of B-17's and fire the rockets on it taking the B-17 out, was quite funny.
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« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2006, 03:52:12 AM »
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Really? Service deliveries began in January 1944 is what Im reading. In July of 1944 a force of 18 Yak-3 (107s) met 30 LW fighters a mix of 109s and 190s and shot down 15 for the loss of one Yak. The Normandie-Niemen Group changed from the Yak-9 to the Yak-3 (107s) and their last 99 kills of a 273 kill tally were with that plane.


 Out of some 4,400+ Yak-3s, only 100 of them were (much experimentally) mounted with the VK-107 and even fewer saw combat, with the majority of its operations as an active service plane taking place in 1945. By then, all of of the VK-107s produced were reallocated to be mounted on the Yak-9U, a plane that was specifically designed with the VK-107 in mind.
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« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2006, 05:11:13 AM »
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Lately, Ive taken the "cant beat em, join em" approach.  While I love my P-38s, I cant do the stuff Corky does (He *must* be high on Nyquil to do those things!).  So I've been upping the Spit16 and shooting the fellas down.  Heck they cant do anything wrong, awesome guns, fast, turn...why learn a plane when you can just fly this thing?  :cool:



IMHO thats BS (pardon the harsh words). To fly a Spit16 *well* - to use its strenghts and avoid its weaknesses, you need to work just as you have to in any other plane.

Yes, the Spit16 is late war. Yes, it got good roll, climb, not bad turn. But its still as killable as anything else.
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« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2006, 03:41:47 PM »
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IMHO thats BS (pardon the harsh words). To fly a Spit16 *well* - to use its strenghts and avoid its weaknesses, you need to work just as you have to in any other plane.

Yes, the Spit16 is late war. Yes, it got good roll, climb, not bad turn. But its still as killable as anything else.


How do I say this nicely....dude, Im a bomber dweeb.  I stink in fighters.  Yet that thing makes me look like el-ace-a-roonni

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