Author Topic: HO fighting.... (Read 6294 times)

SkyRock · « **Reply #150 on:** August 13, 2006, 11:38:53 AM »

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Originally posted by COBA94
easy there skyrock. if a 31st hoed you while you were being ganged doesnt mean we go to the TA and practice hoing. it happened im sure but dont throw the whole squad under the bus. hoing is going to happen but the main complaint i hear on squad vox is that "someone is trying to ho me or someone hoed me". as this must be a recent occurance, since its fresh in your memory i undrstand your bitterness. also,about being ganged, no disrespect intended,seriously, i kinda enjoy multiples v me.3 or less.and who in the ma really expects others to not join in when there is only one eny. i have actually asked other green guys to leave myself and whoever alone to no avail. every sitiuation is different and i'll ho on a few...me v 262 =ho,protecting goon=ho, protecting squaddy in any situation=ho. rather use acm, love a great fight win or lose but sometimes, occasionally a man with a gun gotta do things he dont wanna do.lol.

Brick I have contacted a few in your squad since that post and will tell you now that I like to challenge folks. I think that we have even flown wing a lil when I was on bish and your a respectable wingy and foe! I will avoid calling out your entire squad from this time forward. Check your PM in here!:aok

Reynolds · « **Reply #151 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:11:23 PM »

Okay, i still think if you get HOd, its your fault. You shoulda MOVED!!!

Reynolds · « **Reply #152 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:11:23 PM »

Okay, i still think if you get HOd, its your fault. You shoulda MOVED!!!

BugsBunny · « **Reply #153 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:33:31 PM »

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Originally posted by WMLute
just so I can keep up w/ who's is saying what.....

what name does bugsbunny fly under?

anyone? bugs?

Well, that would be BugsBuny.

I think Karaya has shadephobia. Every post of his has the word shade in it, lol

SkyRock · « **Reply #154 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:43:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Reynolds
Okay, i still think if you get HOd, its your fault. You shoulda MOVED!!!

loser skilless response!:aok

Reynolds · « **Reply #155 on:** August 13, 2006, 09:05:58 PM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
loser skilless response!:aok

You would think, but no. Yall like the WWIIiness, well lets think. Its WWII. You are in a P51, and a 109 is coming right at you. You recognize the markings, Erich Hartman (Yeah, i probably spelled that wrong, but thats too bad) and the top ace of the war is coming right for you. You bet your arse youd be shooting on the merge. Same in the game. If they come for you, you shoot. Can you think of any reason you could not avoid going head on with an enemy? Is there ANY curcumstance where you could NOT move out from in front of an enemy? If you chose to take a pilot head on, expect to get shot. YOURS, is a loser skilles response, because even a retarded kid (And yes, i have seen this to prove it) can turn left and not get HOd.

stantond · « **Reply #156 on:** August 13, 2006, 09:38:16 PM »

Avoiding the HO becomes easier after a while. My main difficulty with accepting the HO is based on reading books like "Fighter Combat" by Shaw that shows HO's are low probability shots and should not be so lethal. I have been criticized by some persons here on the forum for that position. My position still stands.

However, this is the game we have. HO's are quite lethal and if you don't actively work to avoid them you will get shot down. There is no... "it takes two" or "you asked for it"... if you don't actively maneuver to avoid the HO, which IMO has more lethality than a dead six shot, you will get hit.

The HO, while it doesn't require ACM skills, does require some pretty good gunnery so I would not say it is absolutely a 'skill less dweeb' who shot you. I keep it in my list of options but prefer not to HO. However, that is just personal preference on my part. HO'ing is an integral part of the game.

Regards,

Malta

Warchief · « **Reply #157 on:** August 13, 2006, 10:37:02 PM »

My preferred a/c is the Hurri iiC and yes I do HOE. If you are dumb enough to come right at me then I will HOE you. ONe shot I have praticed and gotten very good at is the deflection shot. You come HO and turn I will gun you down. What annoies me is when peopl call that a HOE> Guss what it isn't a HOE. HOES are also easliy aviodable. 70% of the time when someon goes Ho I will fire and to be honest I hope you avoid because you gave me what I wanted. Hurris are slow therefore the less E my opponent has the more advantage I have. But there is one thing no one should complain about when it comes to HOE no matter who you are. If you go HO with a 110 and dont expect him to fire your an idiot plane and simple. If you are in a perk plane and try a HO with any cannon equiped a/c then once again you are idiot. Why you get more perks for killing a perk plane. IN a HUrr for shooting down one 262, yes I HOED him for his effort at trying to vulch me I got 20 perks for it. You dont want to get HOED dont put yourself in that position. Last but not least I have noticed that some complain about getting HOE who HOE themselves. They get mad that didnt win or you would not see there name on here or hear there complaints.

Chief31

Tumor · « **Reply #158 on:** August 13, 2006, 10:53:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Warchief
My preferred a/c is the Hurri iiC and yes I do HOE.

This is not Home & Garden chief.

WilldCrd · « **Reply #159 on:** August 14, 2006, 12:07:40 AM »

holy crap!
never woulda thought this thread would have gone the distance

SkyRock · « **Reply #160 on:** August 14, 2006, 12:55:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Warchief
My preferred a/c is the Hurri iiC and yes I do HOE. If you are dumb enough to come right at me then I will HOE you. ONe shot I have praticed and gotten very good at is the deflection shot. You come HO and turn I will gun you down. What annoies me is when peopl call that a HOE> Guss what it isn't a HOE. HOES are also easliy aviodable. 70% of the time when someon goes Ho I will fire and to be honest I hope you avoid because you gave me what I wanted. Hurris are slow therefore the less E my opponent has the more advantage I have. But there is one thing no one should complain about when it comes to HOE no matter who you are. If you go HO with a 110 and dont expect him to fire your an idiot plane and simple. If you are in a perk plane and try a HO with any cannon equiped a/c then once again you are idiot. Why you get more perks for killing a perk plane. IN a HUrr for shooting down one 262, yes I HOED him for his effort at trying to vulch me I got 20 perks for it. You dont want to get HOED dont put yourself in that position. Last but not least I have noticed that some complain about getting HOE who HOE themselves. They get mad that didnt win or you would not see there name on here or hear there complaints.

Chief31

Ive seen u up a field and do nothing but fly around HOing at everything. Or come barreling through a furball HOing at everything in sight. Note I said HOing "at". I am challengeing you to a duel in hurri2c's gentlemens agreement on NO HOing on any merge which means u have to outfly the guy to get on his six! It is not to see who's better, rather to see just where your at as far as acm's are concerned. The reason being is part of this argument is that many peeps HO because there not comfortable manuvering for the kill. If you have acm's and the DA will prove that, then you will be proving some of the argument wrong! Deal????

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #161 on:** August 14, 2006, 01:10:44 AM »

i will ho a 262 or a vulcher everytime.

sometimes if im really pushed i will 'return fire' in a close turn fight ho after the merge, when i know the pilot im fighting has no scrupels about shooting from any ho and i cannot get out the way....... i wouldnt open fire first.

sometimes i fight people i know and we can hold fire for minutes into a fight untill we get a worthy shot, giving up countless even and uneven ho passes.

Vudak · « **Reply #162 on:** August 14, 2006, 01:24:42 AM »

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Originally posted by B@tfinkV

sometimes i fight people i know and we can hold fire for minutes into a fight untill we get a worthy shot, giving up countless even and uneven ho passes.

And those make for some fun, fun fights Batfink

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I like the "If I have a shot and you don't have a shot, I'll take the shot, but if the only reason you don't have a shot is because you chose not to push for a HO shot, I won't" deal, myself.

It's pretty obvious when that's the case, IMO.

It's kinda stupid, after all, to match each other in a scissor only to pull the trigger at the exact same time... Much better to keep going until only one guy has a shot. This doesn't mean it won't be front quarter, though.

Flayed1 · « **Reply #163 on:** August 14, 2006, 05:37:28 AM »

My personal opinnion is that it depends on what your flying and the situation you are in at the time.

Example.... I up a YAK-9T from a base that was under attack, climb up for a bit and see nmy dots out ahead and just higher than me. I lvl my 9T out trying to get a bit of speed out of it but well didn't have enough time to get much speed.
A few seconds later I see that it's a Hurri coming twards me so I think Hmm either I can try diving out and hope the Hurri above me dosn't have enough E to catch me or I could try for the HO with my flying field gun

Those were the only options I could really see working cause I figure there wouldn't be much of a way for my (at the time slow) bazooka packing plane to manuver with a Hurri.

When what happenes but the Hurri dips his nose and points it right at me..... Well I think to myself, if that isn't an invite I don't know what is. I figure the Hurri's multipul cannons are a good mach up for my fat single.

I have just enough E to pull up into the Hurri, any higher and I couldn't have done it. We close in and I wait till he's 800 out and Fire off 3 or 4 slugs. He hits my oil but not before I see 2 big explosive looking blasts to his nose and he evaporates...

He pipes in on 200 saying something about how long it takes to get a Hurri over there just to die to a HO.. I said next time don't point your nose at my 9T.

In that instance I couldn't see much of a way out of it and I had the gun to back me up, although I do like to ho people with Spit and Hurri MK1's from time to time. Or sometimes I'll HO IL2's and 110's in what ever I'm flying just to laugh when I have better aim and kill the big gunned monsters with my A6M.

I even Ho'd a D9 with a D3A once and won, almost crashed laughing.

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #164 on:** August 14, 2006, 05:47:47 AM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
It is not to see who's better, rather to see just where your at as far as acm's are concerned. The reason being is part of this argument is that many peeps HO because there not comfortable manuvering for the kill. If you have acm's and the DA will prove that, then you will be proving some of the argument wrong! Deal????

was gonna refrain from posting to this thread, until I flown in this last Friday KOTH.......which was full of crackshot HO artist might I add.......

I was in a fight with this new person ( new to me anyways had never seen him before) we will refer to him as "popcorn".......well from the get go this guy had the smack down, always I did this because I am better atitude....

during the turn fight he comes in with advantage, I quickly reverse it on him and started gaining angles, he breaks off and runs, calmly telling me over vox, I was gaining on you and could have shot you down but I extended, well his extending was because he did not have the ability to manuever for angles, so he extends and yep you guessed it, revs for the HO train..does this for about 6 extends/HO merges...avoiding them are easy most times, but some of these people practice nothing but the HO tactic, or 90% of the time practice this, I took an oil hit then a pilot wound...all because he could have kilt me in the manuevering but decided to break off and reverse for 6+ HO attempts......

then another HO artist, one that has caught alot of flack lately on this board comes in, does the quick pull trigger HO, pull trigger HO, routine and yep I was rusty shot down in flames again..........well I throw out my idolized & quoted "WTG HO Boy" congrats to him to just make him ill thinking I was mad or sumtin, I admire how much these profound ACES of THE HO Sky, have practiced so hard to make this tactic work for them:rolleyes:

it truly made this last KOTH an unique experience, not in a good way either....

where 4 of the rounds won if not more were from these self proclaimed HO artist.........here's to you the almighty HO Boys WTG ~S~