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Offline Infidel

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« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2006, 07:23:20 PM »
No. That Iran exists only in your head.

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« Reply #76 on: August 09, 2006, 07:30:25 PM »
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No. That Iran exists only in your head.


Really? I was aware that Iran denied the Canadian report that non-muslims would have to wear badges but will non-muslims be allowed to wear the muslim dress?

"The parliament is currently debating a dress code for Muslims "to preserve and strengthen Iranian-Islamic culture and identity, consolidate and promote national clothing designs and guide the manufacturing and marketing of clothes, on the basis of domestic forms and designs, as well as to encourage the public to refrain from choosing and spending on foreign designs not appropriate to the Iranian culture and identity.""

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50304

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« Reply #77 on: August 09, 2006, 07:32:54 PM »
I take it you would not trust an Arab source, so here’s a Jewish one:

“Representative of Iran’s 25,000 Jews in the nation’s parliament, Maurice Motamed, the only Jewish MP there, told the western press that the report dealt a severe blow to the Jewish image in Iran. “I was there when they discussed the law, and it was about the dress of Iranian Muslim women. Restrictions for minority or other religions were not mentioned,” Motamed said.”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3252934,00.html


Again, you’re brain-washed.

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« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2006, 07:48:28 PM »
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Again, you’re brain-washed.


Maybe he was just reading a different source?

Doesn't make him brain washed.



I don't think anyway.
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« Reply #79 on: August 09, 2006, 07:54:45 PM »
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I take it you would not trust an Arab source, so here’s a Jewish one:

“Representative of Iran’s 25,000 Jews in the nation’s parliament, Maurice Motamed, the only Jewish MP there, told the western press that the report dealt a severe blow to the Jewish image in Iran. “I was there when they discussed the law, and it was about the dress of Iranian Muslim women. Restrictions for minority or other religions were not mentioned,” Motamed said.”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3252934,00.html


Again, you’re brain-washed.


What I've read and posted the link for says nothing about this "dress code" being for women only. Are you saying there is no validity in the article I linked? I find that those who are quick to accuse others of being brain washed usually suffer the same.

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« Reply #80 on: August 09, 2006, 08:26:21 PM »
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Thank you rolex for tacitly admitting one of the things I have stated repeatedly. There is no seperation between hezbolla and lebanon. They are now one and the same. You claim they are a militia "defending" lebanon. The media treats them like a seperate force that lebanon is unable to control. I look at the fact that the lebanese PM is trying to negotiate as the agent of hezbollah and implies that he has the authority to do so. Apparently hezbollah agrees as there has been nothing from the organization that  I have seen that says they object to the lebonese PM negotiating for them and will not abide by whatever agreement he makes.

Since this makes lebanon and hezbollah one and the same I don't see where they have a damn thing to say about the Isreali's hitting targets inside lebanon whne their "militia" as you called it is randomly rocketing civilian areas of Isreal.

I see the UN situation is only used when it serves your agenda and not when it is regarding the shebaa farms.


Frankly, I think the un should depend on someone other than the US for troops in the middle East and in some other areas. It's time france and some other countries took up the slack and started doing more for global efforts. There wasn't very much support when the US called for the un resolutions to be upheld in iraq, so clean up the mess in lebanon on your own then.


Mav,

I don't think anyone has ever said Hezbollah and Lebanon are separate. They and Lebanon say they are a militia, not me. The only agenda I have, Mav, is that there are two sides to every story. I have said over and over on many topics that understanding both sides is the only way to find possiblities of realistic solutions. Israeli politicians, hezbollah leaders and Lebanese politicians are all responsible. No party is blameless.

Other than packing up Israel and moving it to South America or Texas, I don't see any long-term peaceful solution. No foreign intervention is going to solve anything, it just exacerbates and creates proxies for the problem, because the root cause is never addressed.

Before Israel was created, all the land belonged to someone else. That is what it all distills down to.

The French and the US both left Lebanon after the bombing of their respective barracks. I'll bet over half of the people here don't realize that 58 French soldiers were killed in an attack occuring almost simultaneously to the attack on the Marine barracks in 1983.

Reagan figured it out - get out of Lebanon and no Americans would be killed or hurt there since their presence was only aggravating the situation and not contributing anything toward a solution. The old, "Tell me again why we are there?" trick. We figured it out in Vietnam also, eventually.

I would say it's another case of the US media winding up Americans to fever pitch about something they have no stake in.
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« Reply #81 on: August 09, 2006, 08:38:13 PM »
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Before Israel was created, all the land belonged to someone else. That is what it all distills down to.
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3,000 - 2,000 BC
Early Bronze Age. Arrival and settlement of the Canaanites (3,000 - 2,500 BC)

ca. 1,250 BC
Israelite conquest of Canaan.



Unless the Canaanites show up, it looks like the Israelites have the oldest claim on the area of Palestine.
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« Reply #82 on: August 09, 2006, 08:43:35 PM »
U g0ing 2 giv teh land to teh 1njuns!???!  :mad:

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« Reply #83 on: August 09, 2006, 08:46:47 PM »
Dunno Thrawn.... are you Canuks going to give all the land back to the Indians?

If you do, we might.

But don't let the simple point escape you: Pretty much all the land of every country belonged to 'someone else' at one time or another.

Where do we draw the line?
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« Reply #84 on: August 09, 2006, 09:58:53 PM »
Stop making sense Toad, might get the wackos panties more in a bunch.

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« Reply #85 on: August 09, 2006, 10:43:25 PM »
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« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2006, 11:45:20 PM »
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Unless the Canaanites show up, it looks like the Israelites have the oldest claim on the area of Palestine.


Thats not likely to happen though since the ancient Israelites pretty much wiped out the Canaanites.
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« Reply #87 on: August 10, 2006, 12:08:37 AM »
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I take it you would not trust an Arab source, so here’s a Jewish one:

“Representative of Iran’s 25,000 Jews in the nation’s parliament, Maurice Motamed, the only Jewish MP there, told the western press that the report dealt a severe blow to the Jewish image in Iran. “I was there when they discussed the law, and it was about the dress of Iranian Muslim women. Restrictions for minority or other religions were not mentioned,” Motamed said.”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3252934,00.html


Again, you’re brain-washed.

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« Reply #88 on: August 10, 2006, 12:30:38 AM »
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Welcome back Staga. :lol


I was away for too long. Difficult for me to guess who a shade account might be.