More Scum in the USA!

[ramzey]

no suprise ;-)
cash is illegal in U.S looks like right to make profit start to be illegal too:D

whatever propaganda say, terrorists are not stinky, silly towelheads walking in a robe's smoking opium, and f**ing camels

[lazs2]

Ok.. we got over 50,000 secret police in the U.S under one alphabet soup name or another and....

This is the best they can do?  and even then.....someone has to do the legwork for em?    How long are we gonna continue to pay these "Famous But Incompetent" and "F troop" clowns to look tough in their ray bans and black suits and black on black chevy suburbans?

The cops coulda finished the job they started.  Lets dissband some agencies.

lazs

[ramzey]

lets start from IRS:aok

[lukster]

Originally posted by ramzey
lets start from IRS:aok

Start there and the rest go away almost magically.  

[Mini D]

For enterprising young men, they have some strange procurement practices:

The three men allegedly bought 80 by purchasing them three at time so that an alert wouldn't be triggered by the cash register. They also paid cash.

Such an odd thing for someone with nothing to hide to do while buying 1000 of these.

I don't know anything about the need for 1000 of these to detonate a bomb... seems like 1 would do it, but something was going on. The trigger for these phones being sold en mass seems to be there for a reason.

[Rolex]

Well, you can't transfer more than $5,000 within or in/out of the US at a time either without triggering terrorist alerts either. Banks are now required to call people and ask them where and how they get their money, or so they claim.

It's nuts having to justify to some pinhead how or where I make money. It's none of their business.

[Mini D]

So... you just do a series of $4999 transfers so that you fly under the radar?

[lukster]

Originally posted by Rolex
Well, you can't transfer more than $5,000 within or in/out of the US at a time either without triggering terrorist alerts either. Banks are now required to call people and ask them where and how they get their money, or so they claim.

It's nuts having to justify to some pinhead how or where I make money. It's none of their business.

The IRS requires notification of a $5000 or higher payment to a contractor and has for some time.

I don't know about the rest of you frogs but this water's getting hot.

[Rolex]

Originally posted by Mini D
So... you just do a series of $4999 transfers so that you fly under the radar?

But you're the one who just said it was odd for them to stay under the radar. See what I mean?

fini

[Mini D]

No. I don't.

If you transferred 1 million dollars into the U.S. via 201 $4999 transfers I'd see that as extremely suspicious. I have no idea what your intentions are, but suspicion is there. It would be something I'd expect to be looked at.

If you did something extremely odd like buy 1000 cell phone 3 at a time to avoid notice, I'd think the same thing.

It's not avoiding notice that is odd, it's the combination of massive purchasing with the avoidance that is.

[bj229r]

Originally posted by Mini D
For enterprising young men, they have some strange procurement practices:



Such an odd thing for someone with nothing to hide to do while buying 1000 of these.

I don't know anything about the need for 1000 of these to detonate a bomb... seems like 1 would do it, but something was going on. The trigger for these phones being sold en mass seems to be there for a reason.

They don't need them to trigger a bomb, they NEED them to get around CIA/FBI/NSA surveillance methods/lack thereof--make 1-2 calls, when feds get permission to tap that phone# next  time...'young-male-of-middle-eastern-extraction' caller and callee will be on new phone

[Rolex]

Associated Press 17:00 PM Sep, 05, 2006

BAY CITY, Mich. — A federal judge threw out conspiracy and money laundering charges Tuesday against three Texas men who originally were accused of planning terrorism, saying there wasn't enough evidence to bring them to trial.

U.S. District Court Magistrate Charles Binder released Louai Othman, 23, his brother Adham Othman, 21, and their cousin Maruan Muhareb, 18, all of Mesquite, Texas, after a preliminary hearing.

The three were arrested Aug. 11 after buying large numbers of prepaid cell phones at a Wal-Mart store in rural Caro, about 80 miles north of Detroit. Michigan charges against the men were thrown out last month.

Well, there we have it. Enterprising young men and not terrorists.

[Mini D]

There we have it... "not enough proof".

Ever wonder exactly when the rule "in order for a lie to actually be a lie, you need to be able to prove it" became the rule? It's a good rule for the legal system, not a good rule for much else.

Something was up there. You know it, you pretend otherwise, you think it makes you a better person, but it doesn't.

[Rolex]

Originally posted by Mini D
Something was up there. You know it, you pretend otherwise, you think it makes you a better person, but it doesn't.

I pretend nothing. I do not know something was up there. If that makes me a better person than someone who 'thinks' they 'know' something was up, so be it.

There was not enough evidence to even take the charges to a trial. It's the legal system at work protecting omniscient people from lynching people without evidence, or proof.

[Momus--]

As I understand it, they were modifying pre-paid cell phones to allow them to work on other networks.  This can be a profitable activity since handset prices are often subsidised by the vendor network.

Is that illegal in the US? It isn't in the UK.

Funny how some people had them tried and convicted at the moment of their arrest though.