Author Topic: Happy birthday, Fidel! (Read 834 times)

Boroda · « **on:** August 13, 2006, 03:51:55 PM »

Fidel Castro Ruz turned 80 today.

Happy birthday, Fidel, and get well soon!...

First TV channel sows Oliver Stone's "Comandante" now.

If you don't like Fidel and hate "communism" - you still have to admit that he's a great man, the last man standing, an icon for the nations and people who believe in a different way.

I strongly recommend Stone's "Comandante", a very warm and touching film. What a nonsence, we need an American movie about Fidel Castro... No surprise, if we dig deeper into history. It was an American journalist who met Fidel when he was a guerilla in the mountains and created publicity for Cuban revolution.

FOGOLD · « **Reply #1 on:** August 13, 2006, 04:11:20 PM »

He he. This has just got to be bait for rednecksville. Agree wholeheartedly though. It's not democratic, but I can't believe US is so uptight about Cuba when everyone else seems happy to deal with it! The quickest way to democratise Cuba is to chill and let people visit and trade with it. Hells teeth, the US deals with China!:rolleyes:

weaselsan · « **Reply #2 on:** August 13, 2006, 04:25:43 PM »

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He he. This has just got to be bait for rednecksville. Agree wholeheartedly though. It's not democratic, but I can't believe US is so uptight about Cuba when everyone else seems happy to deal with it! The quickest way to democratise Cuba is to chill and let people visit and trade with it. Hells teeth, the US deals with China!:rolleyes:

You got it wrong. Americans could care less about Cuba or Castro. The ones who are uptight are the Cubans who got out of Fidel's paradise. They are down in South Florida trying to turn Miami into Havana. Frankly I would love to go to Cuba set up a business and insist they speak English.

Belay that....They have turned Miami into Havana.

JB88 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2006, 05:00:54 PM »

what is the relationship between russia and cuba since the collapse of the soviet union? is russia still funding cuba?

soda72 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2006, 05:06:18 PM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4789080.stm

Remember to bow to your king, when you wish him happy birthday...

I wont be...

Boroda · « **Reply #5 on:** August 13, 2006, 05:07:58 PM »

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You got it wrong. Americans could care less about Cuba or Castro. The ones who are uptight are the Cubans who got out of Fidel's paradise. They are down in South Florida trying to turn Miami into Havana. Frankly I would love to go to Cuba set up a business and insist they speak English.

Belay that....They have turned Miami into Havana.

Guess who's screaming in the media about "Bloody Putin's Regime" (tm)? A bunch of thieves and crooks who have to hide in Israel, UK and other "free world" countries, like Nevzlin (accused of several murders) and Berezovsky (all-time sponsor of "Chechen freedom-fighters", who made millions on "releasing" hostages)....

See, a guy wants some property owned by someone else, he's got used that he's a Master of Life - so he simply sends a death-squad to kill the owners family, only one kid survives, he is under investigation and his guilt is proven, but he has Israeli citizenship, and Israel never extradicts Jews. I am speaking about Leonid Nevzlin. /*I am not an anti-semite, I only think that such people are an infamy for the whole Jewish state*/

I hope you understand that a handful of crooks and former local barons don't represent the whole people of Cuba.

Gunthr · « **Reply #6 on:** August 13, 2006, 05:54:50 PM »

I give Fidel a lot of points for his guts and his intentions. I do respect a fighter, and he is one.

It's just a ***** that his choice of communism to run a country just runs it into the ground...

Viva La Cuba!

Nilsen · « **Reply #7 on:** August 13, 2006, 06:03:10 PM »

Happy Birthday Cuba Libre!

and what fogold said.. the only thing keeping that country commie is Amreekas hellbent(ion) on boycotting the place...

jebus... its 2006 and the cold war is over already

FLood the place with rich springbreak kids and let communism rot from within

Gunthr · « **Reply #8 on:** August 13, 2006, 06:03:10 PM »

I've been waiting to go to Cuba for a long time. The Cubans are not homagenous, it is diverse like other places. I think most would like to see it... the people, the clubs, the fishing, the Cabanas, the culture, maybe we can go now? I'm ready.

Boroda · « **Reply #9 on:** August 13, 2006, 06:20:52 PM »

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I give Fidel a lot of points for his guts and his intentions. I do respect a fighter, and he is one.

Exactly what I meant.

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It's just a ***** that his choice of communism to run a country just runs it into the ground...

Communism is nothing more then a figure of speech.

Compare Cuba to their neighbours like Haiti. The difference is quite impressive.

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Viva La Cuba!

Viva!

Too sad I don't have rum here, and it's too late to go buy some. Cuba Libra is my favourite cocktail. Directions printed on the back of every Havana Club bottle sold in USSR. We had Pepsi, 45 kopeykas for a 0.33, but a "slice of lemon" was almost a bad joke. In 1991 we had a period when Havana Club was easier to buy then vodka, i still remember the flavour

Gunthr · « **Reply #10 on:** August 13, 2006, 06:37:11 PM »

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Compare Cuba to their neighbours like Haiti. The difference is quite impressive.

I can't agree with you there, Boroda... Cuba has been subsidised by the USSR....
and I question if the island could survive without that subsidy.

my love for Cuba is without the politics...

Gunthr · « **Reply #11 on:** August 13, 2006, 06:48:55 PM »

... and Communism is a failed system, not a figure of speech. Cuba could bloom with capitalism...

Boroda · « **Reply #12 on:** August 13, 2006, 06:56:04 PM »

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I can't agree with you there, Boroda... Cuba has been subsidised by the USSR....
and I question if the island could survive without that subsidy.

Subsidy was limited to buying sugar and crappy oranges. I really love Cuban cigarettes, they appeared here again after 15 years, but they are too expensive, not like Ligeros ("death under sail") in Soviet times, now they cost 4 times more then Russian or Western brands.

And keeping an airborne corps brigade there, guarding a radio-recon station, that was abandoned in mid-90s.

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my love for Cuba is without the politics...

Same thing here. I love Hamingway. Comandante said he loves him too. Good reason to respect him.

You may hate him, but he deserves respect.

Boroda · « **Reply #13 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:01:19 PM »

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... and Communism is a failed system, not a figure of speech. Cuba could bloom with capitalism...

You have a wrong definition of "communism".

What is failed is a "Soviet Socialism".

And it probably couldn't fail if our leaders were like Fidel, not like that bald stupid with a spot on the head.

Funny, but I turn left-wing, reading you guys on this board. Reading and posting here definetly makes me

FOGOLD · « **Reply #14 on:** August 14, 2006, 01:16:30 AM »

Never forget that Cuban health care and literacy levels are unequalled in Latin America, never mind the world as a whole. Don't be blind to the fact that even in the old Communist countries everyone had a job, had plenty of money and never had to pay for health or education. Trouble was the economy was so distorted and life so undemocratic people just were sick to death of it.