Author Topic: Muslims in America vs Muslims in Europe (Read 2354 times)

Suave · « **Reply #30 on:** August 15, 2006, 08:50:30 AM »

The way women are treated in those countries is little different then they were treated here 100 years ago. And it's not acceptable anywhere as far as I'm concerned, and you'll notice that it doesn't occur in the american muslim population. So the common denominator isn't the religion.

If it was christians would still be behaving like 16 century barbarians.

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 15, 2006, 08:57:19 AM »

so you are saying that there is nothing about their religion that would make it possible to make fun of them or censure them?

lazs

Suave · « **Reply #32 on:** August 15, 2006, 09:01:26 AM »

All religions are stupid to me.

And the double standard that is applied to the arabs bothers me too. In fact I think it's a huge part of the problem. A cartoon of muhamed and they flip out and murder people, an arab blows up a wedding and the arab world hardly sighs. "Palistinians" deliberately kill civilians, and then hide behind civilians, IDF sends counterfire artillery at the rocket launchers and kills some civilians ahab is all "HALALALALALALA".

So I'll assume that your lumping me into the great part of the population of hazy thinkers was just some more of your trademark peurile insolence.

lazs2 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 15, 2006, 09:07:53 AM »

I'm not lumping you in with anyone. I am asking you questions to see where you stand. You appear to see it about like I do.. that, compared to christians... they are dangerous nut jobs.

I also agree that all fundamentalist religions are dangerous.... I just feel that the ideas behind the muslim one and the way it is practiced are a magnatude greater in backward thinking and danger to everyone. The most outrageous christian abuses and ignorance were in the distant past... the muslims just seem to be getting out of theirs a lot slower and therefore... a more legitimate target for making fun of and vitriol that many reserve for religious types.

I do notice that you have managed to pidgeonhole me tho.

lazs

Suave · « **Reply #34 on:** August 15, 2006, 09:26:44 AM »

By pidgeonhole I think you mean my coment about you insulting people. I'm not being snide here, I really am not familiar with that term pidgeonhole.

But as far as you having a style that is usually personally insulting to people. Well come on laz, even you have to admit that's pretty accurate. If you're not particularly proud of that reputation I don't think anybody would mind if you tried to change it.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #35 on:** August 15, 2006, 09:50:26 AM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK

Hispanics didnt whine for the longest time either.

Now Im almost ashamed Im of Spanish (among other things) decent

ROFLMAO @you

ack-ack

lukster · « **Reply #36 on:** August 15, 2006, 09:58:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Suave
By pidgeonhole I think you mean my coment about you insulting people. I'm not being snide here, I really am not familiar with that term pidgeonhole.

But as far as you having a style that is usually personally insulting to people. Well come on laz, even you have to admit that's pretty accurate. If you're not particularly proud of that reputation I don't think anybody would mind if you tried to change it.

From what I've seen of your posts there's no lack of personal insults. Pot meet kettle?

Suave · « **Reply #37 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:08:46 AM »

Provide some examples of my ad hominem, me personally insulting individuals that post here.

Yeager · « **Reply #38 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:12:23 AM »

muslim americans appreciate the power of the 2nd amendmant to keep them civilized and polite, I guarantee it

lukster · « **Reply #39 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:13:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Suave
Provide some examples of my ad hominem, me personally insulting individuals that post here.

You're attacks aren't direct but rather snide and I suppose you believe them to be subtle. you laughed at mine and refused to respond to my query.

Here's your latest. Please don't insult us by denying it wasn't a slur on Christianity.

"It will also help you grow more comfortable with the rocky hard earth of reality so you won't turn to booze or drugs or church."

Suave · « **Reply #40 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:23:18 AM »

It wasn't a slur, I think christianity is stupid, just like other religions. A crutch like drugs. A way to cope by evading reality.

I thought your civil war hypothesis was ridiculous.

Not the same as calling you names, or a homo or something. In other words it's not the same as insulting the person instead countering or disagreeing with his point.

I'm not attacking the man who is making the argument.

lukster · « **Reply #41 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:27:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Suave
It wasn't a slur, I think christianity is stupid, just like other religions. A crutch like drugs. A way to cope by evading reality.

I thought your civil war hypothesis was ridiculous.

Not the same as calling you names, or a homo or something. In other words it's not the same as insulting the person instead countering or disagreeing with his point.

I'm not attacking the man who is making the argument.

You want to be derisive it's not for me to say you shouldn't. I wouldn't complain about others being insulting though if I were doing the same.

Suave · « **Reply #42 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:29:50 AM »

Me either.

Momus-- · « **Reply #43 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:41:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Shifty
I would like to see more American Muslims , especially Muslim clergy in America denounce Radical Islam. Come to think of it.... I'd like to at least see some of them do it.

Link, Link , Link and Link

indy007 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 15, 2006, 10:58:25 AM »

San Francisco City Hall

What's really funny (to me) is now the ANSWER stalinists that organize most of this have gone from suburbanite white kids to black muslims as their green vested "security" group. Geuss you gotta theme your staff to the message... wonder if they'll change back when it's a bush-bashing protest.