Author Topic: p51b vs p51d (Read 6803 times)

SAS_KID · « **Reply #45 on:** August 22, 2006, 04:10:12 AM »

D pont is what i prefer. For its 6 guna package. And the "feel" of the way it flies. To me they feel a lot different.

bkbandit · « **Reply #46 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:38:52 AM »

2 b mobel

2 d model
1 undecided

dtango · « **Reply #47 on:** August 24, 2006, 05:48:17 PM »

In Aces High - as an aficionado of the Mustang and with a fair amount of time in both the D and B models I would probably go with the D more than the B.

The main reason for me is the gun package since I find that a fair number (20-30%?) of my shot attempts in flying the Mustang are quick snapshots or very brief tracking shots. The extra 2 guns make a big difference in the D where in the B those shots have a lower % of resulting in lethal damage.

The Bravo is slightly more maneuverable though - I think owing to the lower weight (less 2 guns and the associated ammo) and slightly greater wing surface area as well. I find that I can turn just a wee bit better in the P-51B and follow bandits easier where in the D I'd be already hitting the edge of the stall.

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Historically and Aerodynamically...

I believe the P-51D bubble canopy actually resulted in more drag for the Mustang vs. the B. Can't remember the text but I think Roskam's Aero textbook mentions that specifically. I believe the reason for this is that the teardrop canopy's tail-end slope results in some turbulent airflow just behind the canopy vs. smoother flow along the existing "keel" behind the canopy of the P-51B.

The P-51B didn't suffer from directional instability until the installation of the additional 85 gallon tank behind the cockpit. On the P-51D with the absence of the fueslage keel directional instability was much more of an issue therefore the dorsal fin was installed. AHT mentions that some Mustang pilots lamented the dorsal fin because they couldn't do some of the violent maneuvers that the could have done with Bravo.

The B's guns suffered a lot of jamming because the guns and ammo feed were placed at sharp angles which lead to infuriating gun jams while in combat.

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs

bkbandit · « **Reply #48 on:** August 24, 2006, 09:01:52 PM »

3 d model

2 b model

1 undecided

Anybody else, What about wide wing, B or D and no, no corsairs:lol

viper215 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 24, 2006, 09:34:48 PM »

Dmodel..

p.s not to run of topic bkbandit where in brooklyn do you live im over here in Queens.

Lusche · « **Reply #50 on:** August 24, 2006, 09:49:53 PM »

B. Feels a bit more responsive and gives a lot more perks

bkbandit · « **Reply #51 on:** August 25, 2006, 12:48:43 AM »

4 d models

3 b models

1 undecided

Im in gravesend now, heard of ceasars bay? im about a 5 minute ride from there.

viper215 · « **Reply #52 on:** August 25, 2006, 08:23:29 AM »

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Originally posted by bkbandit

Im in gravesend now, heard of ceasars bay? im about a 5 minute ride from there.

Yea Ive heard of it im in glendale,queens.

bkbandit · « **Reply #53 on:** August 25, 2006, 07:16:34 PM »

i dont noe if its me becoming a grump or the stupidity of the people around here but im starting to hate living around here, i rather be in the middle of the neveda desert flooring the gas pedal then dealing wit these morons.

If only p51 had the k14 gun site, i have seen other threads that talk about the b29 gun site, but we have no k14, cant have things like that in the game but it would be nice.

Squire · « **Reply #54 on:** August 25, 2006, 09:09:08 PM »

D, more firepower and slightly faster down low.

B, better handling.

I prefer the B, unless I get a D im chasing (or an LA-7) who just runs away cuz he finished his 750mph vulch run and now wants to land his single kill, to make his mommy proud.

bkbandit · « **Reply #55 on:** August 25, 2006, 10:21:35 PM »

4 b models
4 d models
1 undecided

too close to call, big factor is the gun package. If u cant hit wit 4 u wont hit wit 6 i guess means nothin in aces high. I agree, when i need to give a guy a solid punch 4 50s are kinda weak but that agility puts the b model back into the fight.

Squire · « **Reply #56 on:** August 26, 2006, 12:07:07 AM »

My ownly serious gripe about a B is when you tackle a formation of buffs alone, its hard to down more than 2 without getting low on ammo, or exposing yourself to a lot of return fire, which is also bad. Vs fighters its fine.

bkbandit · « **Reply #57 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:40:57 PM »

It looks like its safe to call this one a draw and just say that p51 is a great plane period. Shes fast shes pretty she has a solid gun package and she gets the job done.

simshell · « **Reply #58 on:** August 30, 2006, 10:53:28 PM »

B model

anything that enabled me to fly harder and push the limit is why i would fly the B
over the D

i flew to win angles as long as i won the angle i could set up a gunshot very easily and the B model was better for me then the D model

same reason i flew the F4U-1 over all the other F4U's because it had the best agilty of all of them

g00b · « **Reply #59 on:** August 31, 2006, 04:04:14 AM »

For pure 1v1 dominance take the P-51B. An unqualifed and unquantified vote. It just feels better in a dogfight.

For attack and general MA environment take the P-51D, 50% more firepower and it seems a bit more durable.