P62, Bish pulled off what Rooks could not

[Reynolds]

Why not just bomb the carrier?
I know it would respawn, but thats why you cap it with bombers. Keep some good BUFF drivers over the port, and just smash the CV any time it spawns? And dont argue that whole "Ack" problem, just fly high. Bombs do just as much damage from 15,000 feet as from 5.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Reynolds
Why not just bomb the carrier?
I know it would respawn, but thats why you cap it with bombers. Keep some good BUFF drivers over the port, and just smash the CV any time it spawns? And dont argue that whole "Ack" problem, just fly high. Bombs do just as much damage from 15,000 feet as from 5.

LVT's can spawn whether the carrier is "alive" or not. That is the problem, so long as the Task Group is left adjacent to the port, LVT's can immediately and perpetually spawn on land and drop supplies to instantly re-supply P62 until the end-of-time. So bombing the CV does nothing to solve the re-supply exploit...

Zazen

[Reynolds]

Hmm good point.... Maybe a mass mission to kill the whole TG?

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Reynolds
Hmm good point.... Maybe a mass mission to kill the whole TG?

It doesn't matter, LVT's can spawn even if there are no boats at all left in the Task Group...Makes no sense, I know, but that's the way it works and part of the problem...

Zazen

[MIShill]

I think HiTech said he would be sending envelopes full of "white powder" to anyone who tried to exploit this bug again. (This will of course start an endless whining thread about "terroristic threats").
-MI-

[REP0MAN]

[lambo31]

I'm not familiar with the port that is discussed here, and I'm a little confused why LVT's spawning on this port is such a problem. I thought that supplies had no effect on hanger down time. Are the LVT's spawning close enough to town to kill troops? Also, do the supplies effect the down time of the town?



Lambo

[sullie363]

Why not just skip all the hours upon hours of supposed bug fixing and just move the port from the east to the west side of the island.  I'd have to imagine this would cause all LVTs to spawn in the water like any other base as there would no longer be this big chunk of land in between the CV and the port.  

Zazen, you are correct that neither solution was a practical or reasonable one.  The difference is ours stayed within the scope of normal gameplay while yours broke some MA ethics (for lack of a better term).  You're right in your guess that we did not have the highest ranked player on at the time, LYNX at #6 was pretty hard to top.  If we had had the highest ranked player we may of followed your example, I don't know.  But in the end I'm glad we were forced into fighting for it like normal because it revealed that the base was not impossible to take as previously stated by numerous Rooks.

[Reynolds]

Originally posted by sullie363
Why not just skip all the hours upon hours of supposed bug fixing and just move the port from the east to the west side of the island.  I'd have to imagine this would cause all LVTs to spawn in the water like any other base as there would no longer be this big chunk of land in between the CV and the port.  

Zazen, you are correct that neither solution was a practical or reasonable one.  The difference is ours stayed within the scope of normal gameplay while yours broke some MA ethics (for lack of a better term).  You're right in your guess that we did not have the highest ranked player on at the time, LYNX at #6 was pretty hard to top.  If we had had the highest ranked player we may of followed your example, I don't know.  But in the end I'm glad we were forced into fighting for it like normal because it revealed that the base was not impossible to take as previously stated by numerous Rooks.

Well, you took the high ground. Next time, call your friendly neibourhood knights, and the 303rd wil come hit 'em hard enough to make em re-think being an arse

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by sullie363
Zazen, you are correct that neither solution was a practical or reasonable one.  The difference is ours stayed within the scope of normal gameplay while yours broke some MA ethics (for lack of a better term).  You're right in your guess that we did not have the highest ranked player on at the time, LYNX at #6 was pretty hard to top.  If we had had the highest ranked player we may of followed your example, I don't know.  But in the end I'm glad we were forced into fighting for it like normal because it revealed that the base was not impossible to take as previously stated by numerous Rooks.

Driving a vehicle overland from one base to another (25+ game miles) without the benefit of spawnpoints, is hardly anywhere close to 'normal gameplay'. I can't think of another possible scenario where it would make any sense in the normal course of gameplay to spend 2+ hours manually driving a tank to a field. Likewise I can not think of any other situation it would be necessary to commandeer another country's CV. I also would not have faulted Bishops one bit had they had the ranking person to commandeer Rook's CV to remove the exploit just as I did.

I agree that it was not a perfect solution, but neither is wasting 2 hours of several people's lives to only be assured the mere possibilty of  fixing an exploit (your Tanks could have been egged/killed before they got the camp nailed down after your 2 hr drive, wasting your effort)...Obviously, commandeering another country's CV is frowned upon and inappropriate during the normal course of gameplay, but as we've established ad nauseum, this situation is far out of the bounds of normal gameplay and therefore commandeering a CV would present an acceptable solution under the circumstances.

Zazen

[Reynolds]

I still say bomb it!

Or, maybe leave it as the last of that countries bases? No WAY those few LVTs could fight off two countries worth of pilots.

[thndregg]

Originally posted by Zazen13
Driving a vehicle overland from one base to another (25+ game miles) without the benefit of spawnpoints, is hardly anywhere close to 'normal gameplay'.  

...but it demonstrates ethical gameplay.

[Trikky]

Originally posted by Zazen13
... Suffice it to say Rooks are demographically much different now than they were a year ago...

Zazen

Say it aint so! I seem to remember your posts a while back explaining rooks innate superiority, how they had forged their brotherhood, their exceptional skills, in the white hot maelstrom of battle! That similar warrior like, nay, godlike players would naturally gravitate towards them, thus ensuring the glorious rookland domination for a thousand years!!!!!!

Are you saying now that rooks are just like everyone else? Or, perish the thought, they may even be a little bit sucky?

[WMLute]

or, you could halted the attack for a bit, let the CV sail away, THEN took the port.

I for one don't really have an issue w/ the lvt's spawning on land "issue"

Sometimes the best way to take a field is to not attack it for a 1/2 hour, then up a fresh mission.

I DO applaud the pure gumption of driving 2hours in a Tiger.  Something I would never do in a gazillion years.

[Reynolds]

Originally posted by WMLute
or, you could halted the attack for a bit, let the CV sail away, THEN took the port.

I for one don't really have an issue w/ the lvt's spawning on land "issue"

Sometimes the best way to take a field is to not attack it for a 1/2 hour, then up a fresh mission.

I DO applaud the pure gumption of driving 2hours in a Tiger.  Something I would never do in a gazillion years.

Yeah, thats some dedication. But again, the answer to life "Bomb it." LVTs constantly spawning just means more kills for our heavies. Up with 100lb bombs, and just drop whenever you see the b@stards.