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Jackal1 · « **Reply #75 on:** August 28, 2006, 09:48:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Dago
I have never seen an open crack deal myself in the US

Just curious.........Where do you live that you have never seen an open crack deal? The middle of the desert? A swamp?

lukster · « **Reply #76 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:00:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
I fail to see the logic.

You want government to stop telling us what we can and can't do right? Why can't I come to this forum and get a diagnoses for my illness and then go buy whatever drug I think will cure me from whoever I want? Why do I need the government to control this?

indy007 · « **Reply #77 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:01:56 AM »

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Originally posted by lukster
You want government to stop telling us what we can and can't do right? Why can't I come to this forum and get a diagnoses for my illness and then go buy whatever drug I think will cure me from whoever I want? Why do I need the government to control this?

We'll tell you to go get alcohol. It's a government regulated drug.

You'll be cured once the hangover goes away... but that's how you know it worked.

Sandman · « **Reply #78 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:07:41 AM »

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Originally posted by lukster
You want government to stop telling us what we can and can't do right? Why can't I come to this forum and get a diagnoses for my illness and then go buy whatever drug I think will cure me from whoever I want? Why do I need the government to control this?

Self-medicate all you want.

Personally, I'd prefer the opinion of a medical professional.

lukster · « **Reply #79 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:09:10 AM »

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Originally posted by indy007
We'll tell you to go get alcohol. It's a government regulated drug.

You'll be cured once the hangover goes away... but that's how you know it worked.

The government regulates alcohol only to ensure it is taxed. Since we're doing away with so much government we shouldn't need so many taxes, right?

Alcohol does seem to be an all purpose drug doesn't it. Guess some have more serious ailments than others. What does crack cure?

lukster · « **Reply #80 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:10:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Self-medicate all you want.

Personally, I'd prefer the opinion of a medical professional.

I'm fine with that so long as you pay for your own treatment, like I would expect of everyone else. Just don't deny me my own right to treat myself, ok?

indy007 · « **Reply #81 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:12:48 AM »

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Originally posted by lukster
What does crack cure?

You don't believe in Darwinism?

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #82 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:14:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
I fail to see the logic.

That's because there is none, no one wants the FDA to stop regulation, hell, I would love to see them regulate recreational use drugs as well.

It's just BS he pulled out of his bellybutton to make a point, since he can't make them any other way.

lukster · « **Reply #83 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:16:14 AM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
That's because there is none, none one wants the FDA to stop regulation, hell, I would love to see the regulate recreational use drugs as well.

It's just BS he pulled out of his bellybutton to make a point, since he can't make them any other way.

You guys are blind if you can't see where "legalize all drugs" will lead in this. You're asking that the governement not restrict the use of any drug. How can you imagine that won't impact drugs which are currently prescribed?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #84 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:18:04 AM »

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Originally posted by lukster
What does crack cure?

Evidently................frig idness.

lukster · « **Reply #85 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:20:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Evidently................frigidness.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #86 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:30:39 AM »

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Originally posted by lukster
You guys are blind if you can't see where "legalize all drugs" will lead in this. You're asking that the governement not restrict the use of any drug. How can you imagine that won't impact drugs which are currently prescribed?

No we see where banning them has gotten us:

Cheaper drugs
Easier to get drugs.
Tons of money wasted on users in jail.
More government intrusion.
ETC

You’re still blindly clinging to the idea that the war on drugs is anything but a wasteful farce.

Those of us going for legalization realize two things you fail to grasp.

A: Since the war on BS, err I mean drugs isn’t working its time to stop wasting the money and try something new.

B: We like freedom, we know freedom aint pretty at times, but we are willing to live with that cost.

It is really a shame you fear freedom so much, we know your way has failed, our way may as well, but we won't know tell we try.

lukster · « **Reply #87 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:34:31 AM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
That's because there is none, no one wants the FDA to stop regulation, hell, I would love to see them regulate recreational use drugs as well.

It's just BS he pulled out of his bellybutton to make a point, since he can't make them any other way.

Lemme explain why you can't have both "all drugs" legalized and FDA regulation. Exactly when do you think the FDA will "approve" heroine and crack for recreational use? How about never.

lukster · « **Reply #88 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:38:58 AM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
No we see where banning them has gotten us:

Cheaper drugs
Easier to get drugs.
Tons of money wasted on users in jail.
More government intrusion.
ETC

You’re still blindly clinging to the idea that the war on drugs is anything but a wasteful farce.

Those of us going for legalization realize two things you fail to grasp.

A: Since the war on BS, err I mean drugs isn’t working its time to stop wasting the money and try something new.

B: We like freedom, we know freedom aint pretty at times, but we are willing to live with that cost.

It is really a shame you fear freedom so much, we know your way has failed, our way may as well, but we won't know tell we try.

You're assuming a lot. I stated that I felt the war on drugs was completely ineffective and from which only criminals have profited.

I'm not opposed to "legalizing all drugs" but I won't go into it blindly. There will be far reaching effects many of which we can only guess at.

Mini D · « **Reply #89 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:43:38 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
You are a smart guy.. how much crime do you think revolves around a product with a 100-5000% profit margin? How many will kill for that kind of money? what do you think is the main source of money fueling the cartels in other countries and the gangs in America?

What does this have to do with your original argument?

I don't think that petty crime would be affected one way or the other by legalizing drugs. Not one single bit. I think people that feel it's OK to steal from someone will do so regardless of reason. I think that people who are criminals will always be criminals regardless of motivation. Legalizing drugs will not stop that.

Legalizing drugs will not prevent someone from seeking an illegal means for a quick buck. It will not prevent them from defending themselves when they do it. It will not prevent them from killing or stealing. They will just move on to the next thing and society will degrade just a bit more.