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Offline mars01

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« Reply #150 on: September 06, 2006, 08:51:36 AM »
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Let's see, so many things to go after and so little time. The one that stands out the most is how we, the Bops, seem to go after undefended fields 24/7. It would be safe to say we only do this in a group worth noticing on Monday nights from about 6 to 9PM. If they're throwing up a defense, we may hit 4 fields like last night against the Rooks. Or if we're just rolling along, maybe 6 or 8. But we're still only dealing with a 3 or 4 hour period once a week where the majority of the squad is on and all we're working to is taking bases. After using my amazing math skills, it is found that we are only working as a massive blob of destruction 2.4% of the week. Man, after seeing that number I can understand how we are just ruining your whole AH experience. I mean seriously, you only stand a 97.6% chance of not encountering the full fledged Bop horde. No wonder you guys are running into us all the time, with numbers like that it's hard to believe you could avoid us.


Sullie don't get over blown here, as I have said over and over it is the game play style of your squad, albeit, once a week and all the other squads like yours on the other days of the week and all the missun noobs that look at your squad and the others like it as the model and emulate your

"Use overwhelming force and attack where there is least resistance - ie undefended bases for the slow"

tactics.

Again, you guys would rather argue nothing, than really tell us why you wouldn't fight against the enemy potatods?  Why is that?  And don't give me the Tactics crap of Real life.  This is a GAME.

Ranger - Thank you for your service, I salute you for your actions in real life and in real life you are probably a good guy.  

But in here you are on the other side of the fence on this issue and in your game play style.  No one insulted you as a person, but as a computer peelot so please don't cross the two.  There is a big difference.

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« Reply #151 on: September 06, 2006, 09:06:50 AM »
Not intending this as a punt, but since this is where the posts where made, this is where I will respond.

US-RANGER  <>  I salute you and your service.  These personal attacks by the ignorant are only exacerbated by their inability to achieve an intelligent thought.

Keep up the good work in the real world, and please continue to enjoy yourself in the game in whatever style of game play you choose.  It would be an honor to fly either with you or against in the spirit of game fun.
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« Reply #152 on: September 06, 2006, 09:10:34 AM »
Tactics Crap.

If I choose to go head-long in to a furball, I will furball. If I choose to use "tactics crap" to sneak, I will use "tactics crap."

It's all about what people choose. How upsetting.:cry
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« Reply #153 on: September 06, 2006, 09:22:11 AM »
Thunder, what is so upsetting??  The fact that there is little tactics involved other than overwhelming a base with numbers?

Honestly that is all the sneak is, is it not??  Get there with your guys before anyone notices and can defend themselves.  

If not then why do you need to sneak it?  

That is my point about you guys taking your overwhelming numbers and facing the potatods overwhelming numbers and fighting.  That might require some tactics - other than dropping Fighter Hangers.

Honestly I see no tactics need to perpetrate a sneak.  If I am wrong please help me see the light.

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« Reply #154 on: September 06, 2006, 02:16:10 PM »
dunder... that is not quite true..  If  you wish to furball you won't be able to because... well... you simply do not know how.

If you wish to sneak you will...  but...

you have no real choice.  If you don't sneak or become part of an overwhelming whorde.... you will be beaten like a drum by every 12 year old who has actually been in a furball.

Now you guys can play it any way you want... It's your money.  You can evern tell yourselves that it is legit.... you just can't expect to come on here and not get made fun of for your timidity.

It is also nothing new to out you... it is a long standing tradition in flight sims.. the timid no risk guys were allways made fun of.   What has changed is that you are now, if not a slight majority..... close to it.

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« Reply #155 on: September 06, 2006, 07:12:32 PM »
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dunder... that is not quite true..  If  you wish to furball you won't be able to because... well... you simply do not know how.


What the hell does it matter if I know how or not? Lots of fellow Bish and my opponents could verify that I furball & fart around in a fighter. I am not great at it, but I am definitely not a total reject, and I have fun anyway. That's what it is to play here. But I change gears to other things fun as well. Versatility in AH is what makes HTC $$$, and the world is gravitating to it. That is what you apparently can't stand. I do see however that the influx of young newbies are looking for instant gratification without going through the basics with trainers. Do you really believe that endless requests for a fighter-town in every map and closer bases will be granted? Like a law someone proposes that gets shot down year after year, and it keeps getting dredged up again and again until it gets approved because the government won't take no for an answer? What will you do then if HTC does not impliment this? Talk your sales pitch some more and degrade more players lack of "skill" with statistical info? Whatever I do is up to me. So F-n' what? I'm not getting paid for playing, and my life does not revolve around this game and this board. I don't give a flyin' what you think of my game style. I have not detested your style of play. I detest how you trash talk about others and thier lack of "skill", as if it was a paying vocation or career. Makes me wonder if you have any ambitions in life outside this game, or is this all that consumes your time?

P.S. The core of my "mild" irritability with the likes of you is that you are degenerating to name-calling and disrespect to other players, including the BOPs, Lazs. I hold Mars in high regard in that category. I respect that he can demonstrate civility and you choose not to. Proof of that is the discussions he has had with FlaydONE on this issue. You could choose to give a **** and learn from him, but I doubt it. You may have to step out of your hole.
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« Reply #156 on: September 06, 2006, 10:04:13 PM »
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first... on the math... it probly  impossible for guys like yourself and usranger and dunder to every break 1/1kd...  Nothing to do with math tho.
Nothing to brag about to be sure, but above 1/1, thanks.

Nice sidestep of my questions/points, though.  :)
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« Reply #157 on: September 06, 2006, 10:37:03 PM »
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Sullie don't get over blown here, as I have said over and over it is the game play style of your squad, albeit, once a week and all the other squads like yours on the other days of the week and all the missun noobs that look at your squad and the others like it as the model and emulate your

"Use overwhelming force and attack where there is least resistance - ie undefended bases for the slow"

tactics.

Again, you guys would rather argue nothing, than really tell us why you wouldn't fight against the enemy potatods?  Why is that?  And don't give me the Tactics crap of Real life.  This is a GAME.

Ranger - Thank you for your service, I salute you for your actions in real life and in real life you are probably a good guy.  

But in here you are on the other side of the fence on this issue and in your game play style.  No one insulted you as a person, but as a computer peelot so please don't cross the two.  There is a big difference.


How is that overblown, I was simply responding to the comments saying all we do is take bases.  And while I'm here, I might as well educate you some more.  The reason bases are taken is not always the same.  It is often done knowing it will stir something up.  Such as last night we flew noe to the Rooks backdoor and took a base near HQ knowing full well it would spark something interesting.  What followed was a pretty good fight, better than what was going on anywhere else at the time.  And in regards to the bit about how we never take on a horde, well we do actually.  I even told you about it in the first thread you started on this topic but apparently you stopped keeping up with it.  

As this shows signs of going forever/nowhere I'll try and sum things up.  The entire universe and their uncle knows that you guys greatly prefer air to air fights with some nice ACM thrown in for fun.  Almost everybody I know, not just those in the squad, also enjoy good air to air fights even though you obviously don't believe us for who knows what reason.  Hell you even acknowledged that we don't do the whole game ruining horde thing that often, so what is it you think we're doing the rest of the time?  Fine, I'm sorry we do not fly with the single purpose of specifically hunting enemy aircraft 100% of the day.  Sorry we have expanded our horizon to include every fascet of the game.  And I'm sorry that HTC built a game which has more to it than shooting down the other guy.  

God can we all just agree that we will never agree and recognize that the other guy will always think the other one is crazy and will never change the way they play?  Cause all I see is something which has boiled down to a debate more pointless than evolution vs. creationism.  But if you want to keep going fine, I'll ramble right along with you. :aok
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« Reply #158 on: September 06, 2006, 10:53:29 PM »
Have you no F______ respect for the men who fight to protect your right to live free lazs...jesus christ...maybe he does not have a good k/d ratio because he spends time with his family and has a JOB you know what those are? You get this thing called money so you can stop MOOCHING off other people. I lost what little respect I had for you and your squad. GD tard.
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« Reply #159 on: September 07, 2006, 12:08:20 AM »
Let's see... shall I take off from that base with 8 Rook P-51s orbiting at 18K, 2 262's power vulching the runway, and a few LA's buzzing around for good measure just so I can "get good," or might I find it a tad more enjoyable to up off a runway somewhere else?  Go make yourself a screen print of the Rook-Bish map front on any given night then preach to me about hordes.  You want to condemn them, fine.  Apply it to ALL sides.

There is such a thing as setting out to accomplish an objective and doing it in the smartest, most efficient way possible.  Like that raid on Field 96 down by Rook HQ on the last map.  We had to sneak two airfields to get within striking range while still not tipping our hand at the ultimate target.  It went pretty good, too, until that opposition you say is never there suddenly showed up.  I suppose all our 110s that were there to take down the town buildings, had they followed your advice, would be just fine taking on a bunch of LAs, Spits, Nikis, P-51s, and a 262, but somehow I don't think so.  There is such a thing as choosing a plane for a purpose, and to be honest I don't see many guys flying a 110 into a furball to demonstrate their superior fighter jock skills, do you?  If you think about that, it might explain why when flying a non-efficient fighter one might choose to go in undetected.  The plan was to drop town, not dogfight.

I don't even have the slightest clue what stats you are referring to, nor do I care, Laz.  I play to have fun, and that could be anything from taking out a CV that's giving an enemy team an advantage we don't want, or maybe just resupplying a base to get troops up.  Sometimes you die doing that, but so what?  It's the challenge of trying that makes the game fun.  I could care less whether I died 2 times or 20 times yesterday; today is a new day with new dynamics of sides hence more choices of what to do and where.

If you want to furball and be the best you can at that, more power to you.  But I think it's a mistake to judge everyone else and try to compress them into your mold.  Furballs are fun for about 10 minutes for me, after that it's just going roundy-round until some guy you don't see joins the fight and puts you down.  That's why I prefer bombing to fighters.  I have no desire to do the same thing over and over and over again just to improve that one skill to be acceptable to someone else.  It's my 15 bucks, and I'm going to spend it doing what I choose, whether that's above or below an artificial bar set by someone else.

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« Reply #160 on: September 07, 2006, 12:46:42 AM »
Hey, any takers on closing this Thread? It's gone from a troll, to an outright flaming of individuals. Right now, It seems to be at a semi-stable state, and I might remind all of you, we get enough of it on ch.200.

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« Reply #161 on: September 07, 2006, 06:53:32 AM »
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Have you no F______ respect for the men who fight to protect your right to live free lazs...jesus christ...maybe he does not have a good k/d ratio because he spends time with his family and has a JOB you know what those are? You get this thing called money so you can stop MOOCHING off other people. I lost what little respect I had for you and your squad. GD tard.


So since he's in the armed forces we should all kiss his butt? It's kinda sad in a way to pull that truimp card when discussing a video game anyhow. While I deeply respect what he's doing, it has no bearing on any of this. It doesn't make him "more right" because he's in the military.:aok

PS: viper did you use to fly in the DA a lot about 8-12 months ago?
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« Reply #162 on: September 07, 2006, 07:39:55 AM »
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It doesn't make him "more right" because he's in the military.:aok

 


In a way, that's true. He is not god-like simply because he is or has been there. But the military does teach practicle life lessons, such as leadership and responsibility for starters. I have not been in the military, but I have seen some of the best school teachers and coaches come from there, and I admire thier "Brass Tax" character.

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« Reply #163 on: September 07, 2006, 07:58:59 AM »
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So since he's in the armed forces we should all kiss his butt? It's kinda sad in a way to pull that truimp card when discussing a video game anyhow. While I deeply respect what he's doing, it has no bearing on any of this. It doesn't make him "more right" because he's in the military.:aok


No one ever suggested anybody kiss his butt or think him more right or wrong.  However, your ability and mine to be able to come in here and speak whatever opinion floats our boat was paid for in his blood and those like him for the past 230 years.  It doesn't make him more right but we can at least show a bit of respect rather than issuing personal insults and blasting him because of his "military tactics."
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« Reply #164 on: September 07, 2006, 08:06:40 AM »
cable...  I have nothing against you "sneaking" bases with a horde and taking them.  I never even notice.  It makes no difference to me, or most people, who even "wins the war" or... the hawiian vacation that HT gives out every year to the squad who captures the most bases.

I don't care if you think this is the closest thing to chess and advanced math that a human can do in a flight sim or if you think you are saving lives and heaping glory on your squad and your nation.

I hope you do enjoy it and continue to pay HT every month...  My guess is that..... You won't.

If you don't get good and you hide in squad full of guys who can't and won't get good... the very real fact that the "strat" is an afterthought and not really anything other than an excuse to get into some combat... that fact will eventually... maybe a year... maybe two hit you and you will leave... bored out of your skull and having missed out on the most fun anyone coulda had in a FS.    Fortunately for HT... you will be replaced by someone just like you.   And none of us survivors will even notice the difference.

dunder and viper... I play only about 10-20 hours a month these days.   I have no time to take useless bases or care about winning the war.  I do have a job and a life and like most furballers.... just want to forget about both for an hour or two of enjoyable simulated air combat when I get time.

usrnger and you spend a lot more time at it than I do.... when you realize how you are sqandering  your time it will hit you hard and..... read the above to cable..

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