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Offline 68Ripper

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Even the sides
« on: August 31, 2006, 12:30:52 PM »
The number of Rooks and Bish are getting way out of hand in comparison to knits, there should be something in place to put newbs to the country with the least amount of people. Once in that country they should have to stay for a minimum of one month, after which, if they wanted to switch countries they could. the way it is now with knits being outnumbered each and every day everyone jumps ship cause they don't want to be on the side that is (losing) outnumbered all the time. this could eventually lead to even sides all around. just a thought
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Re: Even the sides
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2006, 12:54:38 PM »
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The number of Rooks and Bish are getting way out of hand in comparison to knits, there should be something in place to put newbs to the country with the least amount of people. Once in that country they should have to stay for a minimum of one month, after which, if they wanted to switch countries they could. the way it is now with knits being outnumbered each and every day everyone jumps ship cause they don't want to be on the side that is (losing) outnumbered all the time. this could eventually lead to even sides all around. just a thought


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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2006, 01:00:11 PM »
Personally I like being on the outnumbered side.  More enemys for me :D

put newbs to the country with the least amount of people. Once in that country they should have to stay for a minimum of one month, after which, if they wanted to switch countries they could.

So you're saying a new guy that just signed up because his neighbor/friend/brother gets him interested in the game and talks him into a subscribtion (" hey sign up and fly with us will help you get through the rough spots") but when he signs up he got a 1 out of 3 chance he may end up in a different country and fly with someone he doesnt know? :confused:  and now he doesnt have as much fun and has to wait a month to fly with friends? :huh

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Re: Even the sides
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2006, 01:03:34 PM »
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The number of Rooks and Bish are getting way out of hand in comparison to knits, . ...............
they don't want to be on the side that is (losing) outnumbered all the time. thought


Rooks have the best team, lot of players /SQDs with experience, but you Knights lose cuz you are  dumb tactic not cuz u r outnumbered, you guys deserve to lose and get ganged

 I was watching last evening at rooks taking bases undefended at knight HQ area, but 100+knits were CAPing,vulching bish bases A41/A42 , your SQD/CH and many others, Soo why are you crying about ?
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2006, 01:13:47 PM »
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Rooks have the best team, lot of players /SQDs with experience, but you Knights lose cuz you are  dumb tactic not cuz u r outnumbered, you guys deserve to lose and get ganged

 I was watching last evening at rooks taking bases undefended at knight HQ area, but 100+knits were CAPing,vulching bish bases A41/A42 , your SQD/CH and many others, Soo why are you crying about ?
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2006, 01:14:57 PM »
i flew with the knights for  3 weeks.mainly with JG/44 Nighthawks doobs and company.when the Equanox map was up the majority of the knights were furballing with the bish at A-3 in the north west corner of that map.seems like 55% of them just want to furball, cherrypick and vulch while folks who want to keep the bases from being taken and take other bases are stuck on country channel trying to get others to help only frustrating themselves and logging off.

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2006, 02:23:01 PM »
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Rooks have the best team, lot of players /SQDs with experience, but you Knights lose cuz you are  dumb tactic not cuz u r outnumbered, you guys deserve to lose and get ganged

 I was watching last evening at rooks taking bases undefended at knight HQ area, but 100+knits were CAPing,vulching bish bases A41/A42 , your SQD/CH and many others, Soo why are you crying about ?


my squad was fighting rooks, ask the many Rooks I killed last night at spawn into 60 I believe it was. And I'm not crying just trying to come up with a solution to the uneven sides.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2006, 02:45:15 PM »
My squad went Rooks for a week.  Was no different at all from the Knit side of the world.  Lots participated in missions...lots did not.  Lots gave check 6's...lots did not.  Lots furballed...lots did not.  Same stuff, different country.  When the Knit's have the numbers they win.  When they don't they lose.   I might be wrong but I can't remember a single time when the country that's outnumbered wins or the largest side loses.  IMHO, it's pretty easy to see that being outnumbered is 99% of the reason a side does poorly.  Once a side begins to lose then more people defect and it snowballs.

As far as evening the numbers, I don't think assigning all noobs to the lowest side would help, it'll probably hurt.  As someone else pointed out it penalizes them and it also penalizes the outnumbered side because it becomes overloaded with inexperienced guys and eventually the experienced ones will "cross over".  

How about a draft though?  Kinda like the NFL's expansion team draft.  The low side can draft guys from the other countries based on a vote using the roster....sorry ghi you can't come...lol.












Just in case someone doesn't figure it out I'm kidding about the draft...but ghi still can't come...lol:D

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Re: Re: Even the sides
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2006, 03:05:41 PM »
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Rooks have the best team, lot of players /SQDs with experience, but you Knights lose cuz you are  dumb tactic not cuz u r outnumbered, you guys deserve to lose and get ganged

 


For an experienced player that's about the most inane thing I've heard. Or is it just young teen chest thumping? cuz yur spilling leaves mush to be desired.  


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2006, 03:25:35 PM »
I'm thinking English probably isn't the first language of Transylvania, Lye.

I'd also agree that the tactics employed aren't normally more complex than making sure they have a 6 to 1 advantage, and trying to pour enough NOE lancasters onto a field to make sure that no defenders can get up.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2006, 03:57:14 PM »
The fair weather flyers will always go to the side that has the numbers. That is just the way it is. Penalizing folks in not the answer to this or any other game play peoblem.

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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2006, 03:58:52 PM »
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Rooks have the best team, lot of players /SQDs with experience, but you Knights lose cuz you are  dumb tactic not cuz u r outnumbered, you guys deserve to lose and get ganged

 I was watching last evening at rooks taking bases undefended at knight HQ area, but 100+knits were CAPing,vulching bish bases A41/A42 , your SQD/CH and many others, Soo why are you crying about ?


I disgree Ghi. The issue isnt team quality at all -- and I just came Nit (to get more enemies to shoot at!) after 2+ years of being a Rook.


Most guys play the game to have fun. Dont forget that....most people could care less about strategy. The last major attempt to "change the face of AH with a new era of strategy" fizzled and self destructed, since nobody wants to be told what to do.

Giving "orders" so "we win" amounts to nothing more than telling other people that they are only allowed to have fun the way the general says. Naturally, most generals are routinely ignored, and either run to another country after a fine rant, or find some underlings who will obey their "strategy."

Such "strategy" usually amounts to getting a big enough pile of players to A) horde, pork and vulch a defended base, or B) deter anyone from taking off in the first place.

Playing for fun means that if stopping a horde isnt fun, it wont get done. Bases are often undefended not because of stupidity, but because its pointless for 1-2 guys to defend against 20. And pointless is *not fun*

I took a month and toured all 3 countries, since there are so many good people I've simply never met by staying on rooks. I can assure you, there is no difference between each side's tactics and player base.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2006, 04:14:14 PM »
just transfer all the BK's to the nites! The can take on ALL the bish and rooks and WIN...problem solved.:O


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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2006, 04:35:28 PM »
Always cracks me up when folks try and suggest that players on the 'other team' do things differently.

It just isn't so.  People are people, having fun the way they want to.    Bottom line is generally the team with the most people horde/base captures the most because they can overwhelm the lower number guys.

I find if I don't pay attention to the strategy bit, I have a lot more fun.  Just look for the biggest red bar and go get shot at.  That works on whatever team you are on :)
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