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Offline nirvana

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« on: September 03, 2006, 09:28:59 PM »
I'll be 18th and I plan to buy my first real rifle.  I tried a Ruger 10/22 the other day and I quite liked it, I was wonder if there were any better "starter" rifles, good quality for a relatively low price.  A squaddy recommended the .17HMR.
Squaddy also recommended the Remington 870 for a first shotgun as it's really versatile.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 09:46:03 PM »
For the shotgun, do yourself a big favor and get someone that knows something about shotgun fit to size you up. Then buy the gun whose stock dimensions are as close as possible to what he suggested. They all work pretty well anymore but not everyone one of them will fit you well.

There's no substitute for having a shotgun that shoots where you're already looking.

As for .22's I have a bunch of 10/22's. None especially accurate though; just good plinkers. I have a Marlin 39A lever that is an absolute tack driver. "Same hole" is not an exaggeration for that gun. Most other 39's I've shot are about the same.

Fun to shoot a gun that drives tacks. ;)
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006, 10:24:26 PM »
I have a 10/22 and it's a nice gun but there is another I tend to shoot more and better. That's an old Marlin .22 that was made to look like the M1 Carbine but with a tubular magazine. I've used it to take countless rabbits and a couple Coyotes. For a starter rifle stay with the .22. No it won't be quite as "fast" as the .17 but ammo is EVERYWHERE and rather inexpensive. The .22 will be very versatile and useful where the .17 won't due to the size and weight of the bullet. Later on you can go to the .17 and play with it.

I agree with Toad about the shotgun. I've had 2 pumps, a bolt action and 2 over unders. I shoot the over under. The pumps and bolt action guns are long gone because the over under fits me so well. If it doesn't fit you well you won't want to shoot it and it takes practice to shoot one well. Don't ever believe anyone who says you don't have to aim a shotgun. That's totally bogus.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2006, 12:40:00 AM »
Starter rifles are for 12 year olds.  Buy a .30-06.  Remington 700 is a decent all around rifle, though I would point you to a WW2 vintage gun.  They are still the most fun to shoot.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2006, 12:55:37 AM »
I'm pretty sure you're required to own at least one Ruger 10/22 if you're an American citizen, it's just a requirement.  Good gun, can't go wrong with it as a starter.
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006, 01:46:04 AM »
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I'm pretty sure you're required to own at least one Ruger 10/22 if you're an American citizen, it's just a requirement.  Good gun, can't go wrong with it as a starter.


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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 01:51:22 AM »
I was looking at the Garands in the other thread:eek:  I never realized how expensive guns were, but it beats pumping a BB gun 10 times every shot, that's how I went through 50 rounds in 10 minutes on Saturday.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2006, 04:00:58 AM »
10/22s are great.  Not only are they cheap and reliable, there are TONS of variants and aftermarket kits for them so you can really have some fun with variations on the same basic gun.

As a simple example, they're so cheap it's not unusual to keep one basically stock 10/22 with open sights just to keep in practice with, and have a second one with a custom trigger job, bull barrel, and a scope for light varmint hunting or more serious target practice.  Any gun magazine should have a dozen or more advertisements for many many custom 10/22 parts and kits.  You can even get some custom parts straight from ruger.

I have a basic stainless 10/22 with a nice 3-9x scope.  It makes for a great little carry-around rifle.  I also have a couple high capacity magazines that hold 30 rounds.  The only thing I don't like about the 10/22 is that the rotary magazines are a bit of a pain to load.  That said, there are 10/22 loading gadgets out there that make that chore easier if you start wearing a hole in your thumb loading up the 10/22 magazines.
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2006, 04:14:17 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2006, 05:47:18 AM »
Get a single shot bolt action 22.....the disciplne involved with shooting a single shot will make you a better shot with everything.

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2006, 08:37:29 AM »
If money isn't a problem, try the Ruger M-77/22 or a similar high-quality bolt-action.  They're more accurate than the average auto-loader, although they don't spit the lead out quickly enough for the serious plinker.

On the other hand, the Ruger 10/22 can be had in a number of tweaked versions that look great and offer more than adequate accuracy.  You might want to try this one with the brown laminated-wood stock and a blued bull-barrel.


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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2006, 08:59:35 AM »
my Dad taught me to shoot .. first gun was a bolt action single shot Ithaca .22.  Later I was able to use my grandfather's Marlin lever action .22.

I would knock down crows, sparrows, starlings ..local farmer paid us a nickel for each crow, sparrow, or starling :) .. I brought him 96 of them before he said 'enough, kid! I'll be broke if I have to keep payin you :)'

The Marlin was engraved, stock had roses carved into it, barrel the same.. was 8-side barrel and made near the turn of the century .. weighed a heck of a lot for a .22 .. had very litte recoil because of that. Accurate as the shooter was. Rear site had windage, range adjusts ..I was accurate at 100 yards with it using long rifle ammo .. if the sun was right you could see the bullet arc thru the sky :)

I returned the gun when he passed away ..think my cousin in Chicago has it now.

When the ruger 10/22 came out I bought one .. was fun to 'walk' my hat thru the air, or see how many times you could shoot a thrown tin can before it hit the ground ..or chase a squirrel thru a tree ..and 3k rounds in an afternoon was average :)

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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2006, 11:17:01 AM »
The CMP garands are actually relatively inexpensive.  500 dollars for a vintage in great shape garand is a great price.  Some people just clean the CMP guns up for a living and resell them for a 200-600 dollar profit.


I need to stress though, if you are actually turning 18, you need to buy a real rifle.  Not a .22.  You could possibly look at Marlin Lever actions, they are a blast to shoot.
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2006, 11:22:29 AM »
I cant vouch for a quality shotgun, just dont know em

But I love my Ruger 10/22.  Its pretty much dead-on and being .22, cheap to feed.

Its also easy to clean

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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2006, 11:34:43 AM »
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I need to stress though, if you are actually turning 18, you need to buy a real rifle.  Not a .22.  You could possibly look at Marlin Lever actions, they are a blast to shoot.


I disagree.  Depending on his skills.  He will get more FUNDAMENTALS out of a 22, than moving right into a 30-06.   Same goes for pistols.
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