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« on: September 06, 2006, 12:45:44 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2006, 12:53:39 PM »



Looks like a F-5 clone to me.

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2006, 12:55:25 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2006, 12:58:36 PM »
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Looks like a F-5 clone to me.


That's what i was thinking. Added an extra vertical stabilzer. Wonder if they are building their own engines for it?

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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2006, 01:11:12 PM »
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Looks like a F-5 clone to me.

Yep, looks like that to me too.  Even the stab that was added looks like a copy of an F5

I not 100% sure Moot, but the plane in your link does really look like the other plane.   hard to tell from the angles but the intakes and the canopy do not look similar to me
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2006, 01:11:44 PM »
It makes sense for them, they know they might face sanctions and they dont want to be in the position of being reliant on foreign suppliers for their military.

Its clearly an F-5 derivitive of some sort. Cheap, and uncomplicated.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2006, 01:15:28 PM »
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/09/06/ap2995496.html

The report said the bomber Saegheh is similar to the American F-18 fighter plane, but "more powerful." It also said the plane was "designed, optimized and improved by Iranian experts."


Wonder how they are measuring it's "power"? Thrust to weight? Payload? Avionics? My balsa wood r/c has a greater thrust to weight ratio than an F-18.

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006, 01:20:59 PM »
More pics here:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=90667

It sorta looks like a baby Hornet, but yes, the F-5 heritage is evident when seen side to side

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 01:24:40 PM »
those are all pics of an F-5 clone with a twin tail.  But it you look at the link Moot has, the Saegheh does not look like an F-5,  more like a F-22

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2006, 01:28:45 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%27eqeh

Saegheh (meaning lightning in persian, alternative spellings: Sa'eqeh), or Saegeh-80, is an Iranian single-seater jet fighter that was unveiled in July of 2004. It appears to be an F-5E airframe modified with canted twin tail fins.

The jet has been shown on state television making a test flight. No information about its operational capacity, technical specifications or production were given.

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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2006, 01:29:47 PM »
I am sure it will be toast in air on air battles to anything the Americans or Israelis have. However it may be a low cost suicide delivery system for a low tech nuclear bomb in an attack against an aircraft carrier group for example.

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2006, 01:32:52 PM »
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135123

II. Fighter Aircraft

A. Azarakhsh Fighter

Iran shocked military observers in 1997 when it announced successfully test flying a domestically produced jet fighter, named the Azarakhsh. Iran currently has around 30 Azarakhsh fighters in its inventory.

B. Saegheh

A couple of months ago, Iran finally showed a test flight of its Saegheh jet fighter. A short clip of the Saegheh jet fighter in flight can be viewed at the following site:

http://www.iribnews.ir/media/tv/ch1/14-00/today.asf
(this is a 36 minute video, I havent watched it yet)

The Saegheh is a larger, twin finned, version of Northrop's F-5 fighter and despite modern avianics and other additions, still lags behind modern jet fighters in the West.

(think this is a description of the plane on Moot's link) However, Iran has announced plans for the development of a so-called 4th generation stealth fighter, the Shastudmuffinh. You can see a comparison of the Shastudmuffinh with the Russian MIG I-2000 advanced fighter at the following site (scroll down to the middle of the page, left corner, for pictures of mock versions of the Shastudmuffinh and comparison with the Russian fighter):

http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news065.htm

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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2006, 01:33:21 PM »
I know they are developing some kind of jet that has it's wings configured so that they look like a circle with stub wings sticking out of it..Saw it in Jane's ATWA 2006 edition

Here's a pic



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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2006, 01:33:53 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2006, 01:37:01 PM »
those photos differ quite a bit especially the the photo posted by Viking.