Ark. Senator Says "Iraq WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITH SADDAM IN POWER"

[storch]

why do europeans care what goes on in American politics?

[DiabloTX]

Originally posted by storch
why do europeans care what goes on in American politics?

They have to find something to look up to given their utterly pathetic history.

[babek-]

Iraq is an artificial construction. After WW1 ist was cut off from the Osman Empire, mixing 3 different groups in a new nations without asking these people if they want to live together:
A kurd minority,
a sunnite minority
and a shi.ite majority.

Iraq was then a kind of british colony who build an infrstructure with the collaborating sunnite minorite. From these days the sunnites suppressed the other groups.
After WW2 the british went away and the sunnites built a monarchy - still supressing shi.ites and kurds.
This continued until Saddam.

So if Saddam would be in power, then the sunnites would be happy, because they would be the rulers of Iraq, they would have the officers in army, police and in the cities.

The other groups would not agree that if Saddam is in power Iraq would be a better place.

After the US-forces wiped out Saddam and his buerocratic infrastructure they allowed elections. And now the majority - the shi.ites - got into power. They are now the important part in the army and the police.

Under the rule of Saddam the sunnite dominated police and army tortured and killes shi.ites and kurds. Today the shi.ites took revenge and use these forces to kill sunnites.

On the other hand the sunnite terrorists - like Al Kaida - make day by day attacks against shi.ite civilians, policemen, army recruiting stations and mosques. All these suicide bombers who butcher the civilians are sunnites - I cant remember that the shi.ite iraqis are using this terror-tactic.

According to statitists of a german analysis every month in this year at least 1500 iraqi civilians dies in these fightings, which I call a civil war.

Maybe the best solution would be to destroy that thing called Iraq and build 3 new countries:

1. A northern nation for the kurds
2. A southeast neation for the shi.ites
3. Rest for the sunnites.

But this will not happen.

-> 1. Neither Turkey, nor Iran or Syria would accept an independant kurdistan, because of their own kurd minorities.
-> 2. I doubt that the USA would like to see a second Islamic Republic with the oil ressources cooperating with Iran and under the rule of an iranian Grand Ajatollah.
-> 3. The arabs would not accept that their sunnite friends would be put into the rest of former Iraq without any oil ressources.


So this situation will go on - its a bloody civil war IMHO.

But to say "With Saddam everything would be better" is definitivly worng.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by tikky
Iraqi invasion created more terrorist than actually eliminating!

Horse biscuits. Iraq is the world`s largest mouse trap. It`s working like a charm.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by storch
why do europeans care what goes on in American politics?

Well you know.. One never stops caring for the kids.

Yurup is were alot of you came from before you moved over-seas to meet new people and set up camp. The parents always keeps track of what the offspring does even if they have reached puberty.

[Gh0stFT]

Originally posted by storch
why do europeans care what goes on in American politics?

I doubt anyone really care about,
but you maybe meant American foreign politics?, now thats another story.

[Momus--]

Originally posted by storch
why do Americans care what goes on in Iraqi politics?

There, fixed.

Originally posted by DiabloTX
Because they have to live with the consequences of our pathetic policies.

There, fixed your troll for you too!

Originally posted by Jackal1
Horse biscuits. Iraq is the world`s largest mouse trap. It`s working like a charm.

You'd better tell your own State Department then, because according to their figures, Iraq only accounted for 31% of the total terrorist attacks worldwide last year.(Source)

[tikky]

Originally posted by storch
why do europeans care what goes on in American politics?

because you fat tulips affect EVERYTHING that happens in this ****ed up world... for the worse...

[Yeager]

pathetic truth is 20 centuries of european stupidity are at the root cause of all the worlds troubles today.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Yeager
pathetic truth is 20 centuries of european stupidity are at the root cause of all the worlds troubles today.

Yup WE can all blame the people in OUR past, but that does not mean WE should continue with the stupidity.

Were did your family come from way back before America Yeager?

[Yeager]

you mean from what country did my ancestors escape political tyranny and religious prosecution?

Also, we are in a terrible web of human history that is like a terminal cancer.  There is no escaping our shared destiny but rather than take a stand, pick a side to fight for and win with, europeans consistently choose to bury their ollective heads in the sand profusing for someone else to always take care of the ugly dirty work of human relations.

[DiabloTX]

Stand and fight we do consider
Reminded of an inner pact between us
That's seen as we go
And ride there
In motion
To fields in debts of honor
Defending

Stand the marchers soaring talons,
Peaceful lives will not deliver freedom,
Fighting we know,
Destroy oppression
The point to reaction
As leaders look to you
Attacking

Choose and renounce throwing chains to the floor.
Kill or be killing faster sins correct the flow.
Casting giant shadows off vast penetrating force
To alter via the war that seen
As friction spans the spirits wrath ascending (slowly) to redeem.

Wars that shout in screams of anguish,
Power spent passion bespoils our soul receiver,
Surely we know.
In glory
We rise to offer,
Create our freedom,
A word we utter,
A word.

Words cause our banner, victorious our day.
Will silence be promised as violence display?
The curse increased we fight the power
And live by it by day.
Our gods awake in thunderous roars,
And guide the leaders' hand in paths of glory to the cause.

Listen, should we fight forever
Knowing as we do know fear destroys?
Listen, should we leave our children?
Listen, our lives stare in silence;
Help us now.

Listen, your friends have been broken,
They tell us of your poison; now we know.
Kill them, give them as they give us.
Slay them, burn their childrens' laughter
On to hell.

The fist will run, grasp metal to gun.
The spirit sings in crashing tones,
We gain the battle drum.
Our cries will shrill, the air will moan and crash into the dawn.
The pen won't stay the demon's wings,
The hour approaches pounding out the Devil's sermon.

Soon, oh soon the light,
Pass within and soothe this endless night
And wait here for you,
Our reason to be here.

Soon, oh soon the time,
All we move to gain will reach and calm;
Our heart is open,
Our reason to be here.

Long ago, set into rhyme.
Soon, oh soon the light,
Ours to shape for all time,
Ours the right;
The sun will lead us,
Our reason to be here.

Soon, oh soon the light,
Ours to shape for all time,
Ours the right;
The sun will lead us,
Our reason to be here.

[Nilsen]

If you choose the quick and easy path, you will become an agent of evil.

[Yeager]

If you choose the evil path, you will become an agent of the quick and easy.

Battleships confide in me and tell me where you are

[Pei]

Originally posted by storch
why do europeans care what goes on in American politics?

Because it affects what the most powerful nation on earth does in the world?