Why I can't support the liberals

[Stringer]

I can't support them because they are made of linguini.

[lazs2]

smidsy..  the core democratic party belief is socialism.   They want more government control of the economy through taxation and to level the playing field not in the free market but by government taxation.    They also want to protect us from ourselves and have government provided schools and healthcare and retirement and they are in bed with Unions.

All of these things are far more socialism than fascism.

The democrats are commies more than facists.    The republicans are bad too but... more like the facist you describe so far as government control... they are a magnitude less facist than the womanly democrats are socialist.

Small government is your friend...  big government is not only your enemy but often your executioner.

lazs

[Eagler]

besides wanting socialism, the left does not have a backbone

even the USSR had a backbone for most of its life

in this day and age, the left will not only tax the hell out of us and make us a nanny state, they will get us killed

[midnight Target]

For a while I decided to stop allowing liberals to be defined by neocons. Then it struck me, I will just start defining neocons instead... let the definition wars begin.

Neocons are just fanboi wannabe soldiers too scared to really be tough guys, but living vicariously through the military. It must be true... It is in print.


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see.

[storch]

Originally posted by midnight Target
For a while I decided to stop allowing liberals to be defined by neocons. Then it struck me, I will just start defining neocons instead... let the definition wars begin.

Neocons are just fanboi wannabe soldiers too scared to really be tough guys, but living vicariously through the military. It must be true... It is in print.


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see.

 

 I'll think of an appropriate retort as I cruise through liberty city today.

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Do you really see people that associate themselves with conservatism displaying such hate and vile?

You mean like proposing to exterminate all muslims or something crazy like that?

PS: Vile ain't a noun.

[Seagoon]

Hi Funked,

Originally posted by FUNKED1
You mean like proposing to exterminate all muslims or something crazy like that?

PS: Vile ain't a noun.

Which conservatives have you heard advocating that we exterminate all Muslims? Can you give us an example?

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
.  Do you really see people that associate themselves with conservatism displaying such hate and vile?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imagesofperfection/sets/72157594280280187/

Ever taken your girlfriend to a "family planning" office? These folks thought the reasonable and prudent thing to do, on a workday, was to try and insult us with pure bile rather than minding their own Fn business.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Really I don't see these people as fringe or extreme anything in world of liberalism.  It's just sad that some of them have so much hate and so little common sense.  Do you really see people that associate themselves with conservatism displaying such hate and vile?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imagesofperfection/sets/72157594280280187/

Where does it show that these are "liberals"?  A banner shows a "neo-conservative" organization PNAC and another banner is from a Libertarian organizations TruthMove.org.


ack-ack

[Seagoon]

Hi x0847Marine,

Originally posted by x0847Marine
Ever taken your girlfriend to a "family planning" office? These folks thought the reasonable and prudent thing to do, on a workday, was to try and insult us with pure bile rather than minding their own Fn business.

Abollitionists were fairly unpopular at slave auctions as well. But I'm still rather glad they didn't mind their own business and let people get on with perfectly legal commerce.

Having been to one or two rallies in the vicinity of abortion clinics (it's illegal to demonstrate on their grounds or within a certain distance), I haven't actually heard anything abusive shouted at people going in. Certainly nothing even remotely approaching what's in the second verse of "What its like" by Everlast. Yeah, we were holding Abortion Kills Children signs, and that makes people uncomfortable, but it's supposed to, and if we didn't believe that, we'd hardly be protesting abortion. I also remember one family holding two signs saying "Please Let Us Adopt Your Baby."

In any event, it might be possible that there are abortion protestors out there who want to insult you, and if that was the case, then I am sorry for that, but most of them are there because they sincerely believe that  in an abortion there are two people on the table but only one survives the procedure. For most Christians it is a case of obeying the command to "Open your mouth for the speechless, In the cause of all who are appointed to die." (Prov. 31:8)

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Tarmac
Are you serious?  Remember all those "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" and "God hates studmuffins" religious nutjobs?

Thats religious....not polititcal. Similar to Islamofascists. Funny how liberals equate religious fanatics with political fanatics.

[Tarmac]

Originally posted by weaselsan
Thats religious....not polititcal. Similar to Islamofascists. Funny how liberals equate religious fanatics with political fanatics.

The original question was:

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Do you really see people that associate themselves with conservatism displaying such hate and vile?

I think it's fair to say that Fred Phelps and his cult would call themselves conservatives.  

And I'm hardly a liberal, but that sure is a great argument technique you've learned there.  Name calling... good job.

[midnight Target]

Nothing abusive about holding up a 6' by 6' picture of an aborted fetus on a public road... nope... nothing wrong with that huh preacher?

[Seagoon]

Hi MT,

Originally posted by midnight Target
Nothing abusive about holding up a 6' by 6' picture of an aborted fetus on a public road... nope... nothing wrong with that huh preacher?

As for holding up pictures of aborted fetuses, I wouldn't know, I've never done it, or been at a rally where it was done. Personally, I prefer signs with the newer 3D ultrasounds of living unborn children. I also think that's far more effective, in fact Ultrasounds are perhaps the most effective tool ever invented for changing people's minds concerning abortion.

Grotesque perhaps, but abusive? I don't know. Would holding up pictures of women being shot in Soccer stadiums for appearing outside without a male relative be abusive? How about if a multitude of Germans had lined the Autobahn holding up pictures of the interior of Birkenau or Auschwitz in '43 - '44? Or how about if Americans and Englishmen had held up pictures of the actual interior of a slave ship in the 1700s?

When something terrible is going on legally, people tend to want to keep that particular slice of reality under wraps, but often exposing it is the most effective way of changing minds. Doing so certainly isn't abusive to the people who live because people saw what the abstract terms "Sharia" or "slave trade" or "labor camp" or "abortion" actually means.

[Shuckins]

MT...why would you be offended by a picture of an aborted fetus?  Haven't you said that a fetus isn't really a human being?

Seeing the crushed head and severed limbs would be shocking to some I suppose.  Abortion-on-demand is easier to champion when one doesn't have to see the results.