Arena format change

[Domin]

Originally posted by Krusty
Mustaine,

I have played "that other game" -- and it's no fun. The flight model sucks horribly. The gunnery stinks. The views are terrible. Even if it's free (not counting cost of buying IL2, IL2 FB, AEP, PF, and all the updates upon updates and redundant multiple directories on the HD) it's still not worth it because the gameplay blows.

Yea I have heard both ways. Some people say the same for AH2 and swear by IL2 (and it seems IL2 has a high percent of RL pilots so it can get a lil much). I prefer AH2. I'm sure HTC will figure it out.

[ReyPirin]

All I know when they put in Korea I'll re susbscribe in the meantime, I'm gonna see how this new arena set up works out from the sidelines. WW1/Korea Arena sounds exciting, alas! I hope they work on Korea before WW1 since it's IMO much easier to make, then again you'd need Catapult capable carriers, to launch Panthers.

[icemaw]

wow this thread is boaring allready tthppptttt!!!

[pluck]

my 2 cents:)

i don't see how this will break up squads.  if flying together is so important, which it is, than do it.  organize your organization:)

i think this is a good idea.  obviously it gives a reason to have early and mid-war planes.  more importantly it provides a potentially more competitive atmosphere in which to fly these planes.  how will numbers be, only time will tell, i would think mid-war will be quite popular.  looking forward to logging on:aok

[68slayr]

Before we get other wars we need a GVing a areana w/o bombers!!!!:noid

Is this going to be permenit?  Don't have time to look at 200 posts

[Donzo]

Originally posted by 68slayr
Before we get other wars we need a GVing a areana w/o bombers!!!!:noid

Is this going to be permenit?  Don't have time to look at 200 posts

According to this it looks like Late War 1 has only gv's.  Not sure about Sketch's "Might be available but am not sure:" part with the planes...still wating on official plansets for each arena from HTC.

Originally posted by Sketch

Plane listing, and if there is a * next to it, it is perked:

Early-WAR
A6M2, B5N2, 109E-4, 109F-4, 110C-4b, Boston III, C-47, C-202, D3A1, F4F-4, *190A-5, Hurri-I, Hurri-IIC, Jeep, JU-87, JU-88, *Lanc’s, LVT2 & 4, M-16, M-3, M-8, *P-38G, P-40B & E, SBD, Spit 1, 5, & *9, T-34, TBM

MID-WAR
A20, A6M2, A6M5, B-17, B-26, B5N2, 109F-4, 109G-2, 109G-6, 110C-4b, BOSTON, C-47, C-202, C-205, D3A1, F4F-4, F4U-1, F6F, FM2, 190A-5, HURRI C & D, IL2, JEEP, JU87, JU88, KI61, KI67, KI84, LA5, LANCS, LVT2 & 4, M16, M3, M8, MOSSIE, OSTWIND, P-38G & J, P-40B, P-40e, P-47d11, P-51B, PANZER, PT BOAT, SBD, SEAFIRE, SPIT 5, *8, & 9, T34, TBM, *TIGER, TIFFIE, YAK-9T

LATE-WAR 1
JEEP, LVT2 & 4, M-16, M-3, M-8, OSTWIND, PANZER, PT BOAT, T-34, *TIGER,
Might be available but am not sure: AR234, F4U-C, F4U-4, *ME163, *ME262, *SPIT 14, *TEMEPST

LATE-WAR 2
A20, A6M2, *AR234, B-17, B-24, B-26, B5N2, 109G-14, 109G-6, 109K-4, 110g-2, BOSTON, C-47, C-205, D3A1, F4U-1, *F4U-1C, F4U-1D, *F4U-4, F6F, FM2, 190A-5, 190A-8, 190D-9, 190F-8, GUN, HURRI IIC & IID, IL2, JEEP, JU87, JU88, KI61, KI67, KI84, LA-5, LA-7, LANCS, LVT2 & 4, M-16, M-3, M-8, *ME-163, *ME-262, MOSSIE, NIKI, OSTWIND, P-38J, P-38L, P-40E, P-47D-11, P-47D-25, P-47D-40, P-47N, P-51B, P-51D, PANZER, SBD, SEAFIRE, SPIT 5, 8, *9, 16, T-34, TA152, TBM, *TEMPEST, *TIGER, TIFFIE, YAK-9T, YAK-9U

If true it seems that all bases will require at least one GV spawn.

[Karnak]

Looks good to me.  I am particularly keen on the  early and mid war arenas.

I will definately be on to try it tonight.



And o' how many chicken littles we have.  So, so many....

[Waffle]

9/13    
Never Forget!

[Mustaine]

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
9/13    
Never Forget!

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
9/13    
Never Forget!

Now that's funny.

[rogerdee]

been on early war had 160 players midwar had 36  late 1 had 19  and late 2 had 46

if i wanted to fly against 9 other players id go back to combat flight simulater.

2 aerns would have been better  a early  and  a all  4 is  just  not gona work

[Simaril]

Originally posted by rogerdee
been on early war had 160 players midwar had 36  late 1 had 19  and late 2 had 46

Still confused about how the change catered to small vocal minority....

Seems to me that so far the vocal minority has consisted of those who like late war planes, but I can't imagine that's what you guys meant!

[Sloehand]

Originally posted by Krusty

Introducing new arenas is a nice touch, and the caps may be changed later, but nobody's moving from "Late War 2" unless it's full. I gaurantee that. If you put in new arenas but no incentive to go TO those arenas, they go unused.

 

HiTech now gives use 3 choices to play (an OK idea), but then screws the pooch as it were by (possilbly) restricting people's ability to utilize that choice with too low total arena numbers for the late periods.  It might or might not happen, we'll just have to see.  
But if it does, the first time, I can't get into the arena where my squad is having squad night or other action, and HiTech and I are really gonna have a discussion.  This is one area where I see people willing to close accounts.  If I can't go where I want to play, why should I play at all?  And if I find I don't play that much anymore because of that, then why should I pay HiTech?
The ONLY type of behavior modification HiTech should EVER be involved in (and very, very carefully and very rarily at that) is the prevention of bad individual behavior. PERIOD.  Behavior manipulation is otherwise very dangerous to the bottom line.  
I have no incentive to go to the Early Arena (it's just not me).  I don't mind dropping in there occaisionly when I decide I want to, but I generally don't want to play there, and certainly don't want to be forced there (which won't happen, I'll quit first).  I pay my money to play the full meal deal as I perceive it (which is the Late Arena at the moment),l whenever I want to (you should hear me scream when my connection gets porked).
Take that away, even partially and people will find other games to play.

[Laurie]

its an... erm interesting concept, cant say i ove it but i dnt hate it, will be and end to LA-7 dweebs, but will ruin killing em in p40's! lol i will miss the larger numbers communitly side, got to know many top guys, everything seems to be split up and well theyve took apart the lego model, shaken the box,.. but not put it back together... yet tho, hope things will turn up ok, hope to see alll you guys in the air soon .... and the part about old planes on old planes,,,,,,, isnt that what scenarios are for.. along with the real situations, i think it will shake of the more social players, but grip the historians by the neck and not let go, anyway,

must dayou will now me by hulse2 in game

[BigR]

I like this idea but its going to really fragment the population. It already has. There needs to be some fundemental programming changes in order for this to work.

We need more than ever to have a buddy list! A way to see who is on and what arena they are in.

We also need a way to communicate between the arenas.

Dont underestimate the importance of flying with our friends! We shouldnt have to plan ahead or search through 4 arenas everytime we log in.

I personally think that a rotating plane set would be the best solution but if were going to be stuck with this, we really need a way to communicate!!