New arena format Part 2 - Use this thread, don't open duplicates

[WilldCrd]

QUOTE]Originally posted by Bode
All you had to do was perk the freaking LA7 and Spit 16, Hell why not just make it Allies and Axis planes against each other with 2 countrys, like is the real War, Problem I see is that you listen only to yourselfs and not to your customers. [/QUOTE]


Its posts like these that really crack me up!!

i keep getting this vision: a 10yr old throwing a tempertantrum like this-
Dont know how to express myself guess ill plop down screaming, kicking my legs and swinging my arms to get my way !!!:cry

all day i have been popping in reading some of the posts in this and a few other threads and more and more the posts are degenerating into ones like the one i just quoted

[E25280]

Originally posted by Simaril
How stupid do you think players are? They pick where they WANT to be, they dont just click on the top of the list. If you're logic is right, then everyone would be buying the premium gas since its first button on the pump.

Only one way to find out for sure . . . Change the order so that the mid war arena is at the top.

And we will see in a month or so whether people are chosing early war vs any other period because they want it perminantly, or because of the novelty.  Lots of people flew AvA for a while as a novelty (new map, RPS, etc.), then all went back.  Same may occur with this setup.  Jury is out.

[cav58d]

I like flying all types of airfraft...As of recent, I definately prefer early war...The only reason I have gone into the early war arena 90% of the time since the change isnt because I prefer early war planes though...It's because it has the largest #'s in there...

I have to say tonight was the most boring experience I have ever had in AH...I was logged in the early war arena for maybe an hour and a half, and only flew 15 minutes of that time....The rest of the time was spent BSing about RL aviation and the NFL with friends...blahhh this is boring...

[WilldCrd]

Originally posted by 4510
Ah.. because if that happens... then the customers prefer the old MA.
The only thing it would defeat is a course of action that HTC has picked.  

What HTC has said in essence, is the cattle will go where they are used to going and we have determined that it isn't good for the cattle to do what they have habitually done.  So we will determine what is good for the cattle and protect them from themselves.

well we deffinatly disagree but thats ok.
Im big into a good conspiracy but, HTC isnt the govt. and this isnt a big brother control the populace and we decide what s and isnt good for ya.

You dont like the changes, we get that. but dont turn this into some conspiracy thing.

Haveing a late war arena with all planes enabled WOULD defeat the whole purpose of splitting up the MA. I have been playing since way back in AH1 and AW. the MA was more than just stale it was boring! I enjoy pretty much all aspects of the game from furballing to GVing to doing bomber runs.
The Ma had degenerated to a fat mass of hordom, ho tards and divebombers
people didnt "play" anymore they enganged in scorewhoring, whining on 200 and playing intardnet toughguy.  The enjoyment level of the game had dropped quit a bit for a LARG number of players across the board. People from all areas of play


When ya get right down to it we can sit here and complain, counter complain and specualate all day and night. HT on the other hand has   hard data, on numbers, from amount of players, what planes were used when  and god knows what else.
ALOT of ppl have been screaming for a change, everybody has there own idea of what needed to be done. HT took a looooong time making this decision, you can tell cause it took so loong for anything to be changed. If after awhile it dont work it will change to something else, either to ma of old or something different.

[WilldCrd]

well cav i dont know what to tell ya then, i logged on earlier and was hopping a few arena's to just check out things. everytime i upped i had a fight. TBh tho im not a big chatter type when im on. If ppl arent on vox with me then i dont have time to watermelon chat, im there to fly, and fight ill BS on the BBS:cool:

[Acheron]

Just registered to throw in my 2c.

At first I was all "WTF did they do?" but it has grown on me.
I find it to be really nice to be able to have a decent fight over a base without someone upping a La-7 or Spit-16 and get rid of the fun, or seeing Typhies or La's flying into uncapped bases, vulching 2 or 3 guys to figure on the chat and then fly away.

I enjoy it much more now.
My only gripe is that EW needs a little bit more variety(like B-17C or E, Panzer III, etc.).

As for the people leaving, I think most of them will return after a while.

[Shuffler]

I have read more on the BBS tonight than ever before. Since I can't fly in the Mid War arena with my Squad. ENY ENY ENY

Think I'll go watch Discovery Wings!

[999000]

People can say what ever they want,... the truth always lies in being able to demonstrate the truth ...show me the impression of what you speak..Hitech has said the main areana was unhealthy.....What was the critreria for measuring health? what questions were being asked? what data was actually used to determine the health?? In order for Hitech's premis to be true you need to demonstrate "show " the data?
I'd like to see the integity of the decision based on data....The way this was done was bad initself....old saying says if it walks like a sunk, looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk...its a SKUNK!
999000

[LYNX]

There’s a convergence of factors such as current arena health, player mass, time of year and a couple of things in the pipeline that we believe will provide an influx of players. Taken together, we believe this is the best time to make this transition.

May I start a rumour ?  Or take a guess at something

I feel this "new" set up has been rushed.  Why would anyone piss off it's customers without  any carrots to hold them here ?

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury let us look at some facts..... No new down load ! No new planes !  No new inter arena squad channel !  Just a promise of "we'll get around to it"  The hall marks of a rush job.

AH 2 now ressembles a mish mash of other games we have played and left.

Now let us look at the defendants statement above BUT note these 4 very simple words   "an influx of players".

I put it to you the Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury the HTC is in the process of buying out another sim.    and is making our new targets  err team mates feel more at home with this type of arena set up.

Guilty or Not Guilty   HTC how do you plead ?

[gobucks]

Just my 2 cents

[JB89]

Pyro Did you ever think why it is not civil  i hope you can i know that you and Dale wont change what you guys have done i know dale thinking for every 1 old timer thats leaves 5 newbies will join it is a numbers games thats it sad to think that my self have been playen for 5 years from AH1 to this i understand change has to happen but change should happen for the good  back in AH1 i remember the big push for squads, now and i know this has olny been two days i have olny see my squad once because they fly diffrent plane sets early mid and me late so what do you think the format for squads will end up.

[WilldCrd]

I put it to you the Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury the HTC is in the process of buying out another sim. and is making our new targets err team mates feel more at home with this type of arena set up.

thats a hefty rumor lol
what sim ya "think" they are buying?
was it rushed? well TBH every time HTC makes a big change some ppl say it was RUSHED!!

jury is still out

[cav58d]

http://snappoll.com/poll/130829.php

Please follow this link to vote on what type arena(s) you would like in AHII

[RacrX]

Originally posted by 999000
What was the critreria for measuring health? what questions were being asked? what data was actually used to determine the health?? In order for Hitech's premis to be true you need to demonstrate "show " the data?
I'd like to see the integity of the decision based on data....The way this was done was bad initself....old saying says if it walks like a sunk, looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk...its a SKUNK!
999000

If it was number of players online that determined "health" then the patient is critical.....I cant remember the last time I logged on at Midnight and saw less then 300 ppl on.....until tonight. The MA needs to come back, lots of people like the new format so KEEP IT in some format,  but this is a mess.

As a marketing major and a customer service manager I could point out all the fubars HTC commited with this "improvement" but I wont. I will speak with my $$$

[mussie]

Hey all

I have been busy at home so the first thing I knew about this was when I checked the BBS this morning at work....

Bearing in mind that I have not played this new format yet I think that it sounds very interesting....

But I think that everyone should consider the following

1- Nobody likes change.

2- There were problems with the old format (just do a search on dive bombing, toolsheader or LA7).

3- There will ALWAYS be teething problems when you impliment any sort of change I have faith that HT and Co will Tweak the different settings.

4- The HTC gang have been doing this stuff a lot longer than most (All..?) of us and this is how they pay the bills, so I think they know what they are doing and have considered there options carefully.

Perhaps it would be best if ppl noted the problems they encounter (take a screen dump) and email it to HTC with when where and why, this would allow them to make informed decisions about what is best for their bussiness. Either that or just flood this sticky with your opinions, mind you I really really really really really really really really doubt if HT and Co will read the whole thread so your input might get missed...

All
See you in one of the Virtual Sky's


P.S. PAY ATTENTION I said "sounds very interesting" wether this is correct will be determined  when I actually get to try it...