Korea!

[Enduro]

Originally posted by B3YT
korea then nam. Nam you would have F106 - f104 , AC130 , mig21, mig 17 , F4 , F6 . the A2 . it would be great. Bombers would have the B52 and Vigilanty, the A6 would just be there too. And a whole squad of Hueys and cobras flying down a deep valley with some Iggy Pop blasting out.  Roll on the extra eras

I'm salivating.

Guys, your Korea arena (it's been done already!!!!) is just foreplay--a Vietnam arena will be the hot 'n sweaty s3X that every boy dreams about.  

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Mace2004
Actually, the 105 got 27.5 A/A Mig kills (24.5 20mm, 2 AIM-9, 1 AIM-9 and guns) and lost 17 to Migs for a kill ratio of 1.6 to 1.  As a ground attack aircraft they also destroyed a number on the ground (Vulchers!) and that's how they claim 36 "kills".

F-8's had 18 kills to 3 losses for a 6.3 to 1 kill ratio, the best of any US fighter in Vietnam.  You're right though, most kills were with AIM-9s.  

The number of kills attributed to the 105 is high but given that they flew 20,000 missions over North Vietnam they had a much greater opportunity for kills....of course they also lost 320 planes in the process and their kill per sortie rate was tiny.  Actually, it turns out it wasn't much of a "gunfighter".

Mace

Well, the Thud was about as maneuverable as a loaded school bus... Its kills were more the result of finding an enemy fighter stumbling into their gunsight rather than maneuvering for a shot. Nonetheless, considering how many sorties they flew, and how many SAMS they encountered as well as the heaviest tripleA one could imagine, they proved extremely tough and reliable. Their loss rate was something close to 0.016 per sortie.

My regards,

Widewing

[java45]

Originally posted by Deth7
Yo Taurus  Prnha and a bunch of PS flew DOA... he recruited me to the PS
in AW korea in 96:)  

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeee


http://www.pigstompers.net

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee right back at ya Deth7..this is Taurus45 formerly known as java45 for the 4 pots of coffee I drink per day ( G )

I flew for awhile with the 95thKickingMules and then the PigStompers both in DoA.......................... Salute again and be well.

[simshell]

Widewing

that’s not really a proper comparison the Thud ran into way way more migs and target rich environments then the F-8 Crusader    

its like comparing the Hellcat vs. the Corsair    the hellcat got more kills because it was used more and in richer target environments  and missions

[Widewing]

Originally posted by simshell
Widewing

that’s not really a proper comparison the Thud ran into way way more migs and target rich environments then the F-8 Crusader    

its like comparing the Hellcat vs. the Corsair    the hellcat got more kills because it was used more and in richer target environments  and missions

I wasn't making a comparison, merely stating that F-105s had more gun kills than F-8s.

My regards,

Widewing