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« Reply #105 on: September 23, 2006, 11:46:08 AM »
USRanger: I agree with your concept. Put also please understand that when somthing controversial comes up like our last change if I were to ridgedly enforce the rules, I would be accused of just moderating all posts that disagreed with us.

In fact your first post on this issue.

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Yeah, why don't you try that once in a while? I suppose if there were 10 threads demonizing YOUR buddies, they'd be closed in a heartbeat. Let's see, if I start a BKs ot storch are Evil thread, let's see how long it lasts. Keep playing favorites. Shows your character.


Would be moderated under the srict interpations of the rules. You attact my personal character.

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« Reply #106 on: September 23, 2006, 11:53:11 AM »
Ranger...in all seriousness, I disagree with a lot of what HT does. But how can't anyone see that he has chosen the only fair avenue of moderation in light of all the emotion tied to the current vhanges?

HT, i you for being objective and fair.

I do however have concerns about  Non related threads.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=188065&referrerid=7566

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=188107&referrerid=7566

Looks like things are certainly getting personal and out of hand.

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« Reply #107 on: September 23, 2006, 12:01:17 PM »
Mugzeee: I see the same stuff,I just don't think the timing is quite right yet , and also I see the emotions calming for most people at the moment, not continuing to build.

I.E. Once the dust settles,stronger moderation will be back.


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« Reply #108 on: September 23, 2006, 12:05:12 PM »
Yes those are the two threads that really stuck out to me. HT, if I violated the rules w/ that post, yes, it should have been moded.  2 weeks ago, I wouldn't have said it, but now it's a free-for-all, where anything goes, so why not?  Next time I'll re-word it differently.  Maybe as a question?  Like I said HT, I'm not attacking you,  but my squad is being repeatedly attacked by the same individuals over & over with no interference.  Actually, I'm glad Junior High wasn't this bad.  Imagine the self esteem issues!!:)   If it is too much to ask of you to enforce your own forum rules, plz tell me & I'll drop it.

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« Reply #109 on: September 23, 2006, 12:10:37 PM »
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If it is too much to ask of you to enforce your own forum rules, plz tell me & I'll drop it.


Not to much to ask at all, just don't get in the "I demand mode" thats when things start breaking down.

And understand that my resones for not doing so also must be wieghed.


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« Reply #110 on: September 23, 2006, 12:17:16 PM »
Ok.. I could be wrong but it sure seems to me that the guys against the change have been the most vitriholic.

If I am wrong and I get out of line.. I am sure that someone from HTC will tell me... they have in the past.  

Point is... look at my posts in here.. they really haven't existed much till the just before the change and after it.

Sure... lots of posts over the year but...  I realize that the general is populated with a whole lot of really sensitive thin skinned types so have pretty much kept my brand of humor and... whatever you want to call it... to the Oclub where people aren't quite so delicate.

I felt that the changes and... the way that those who felt  betrayed and suicidal over it were getting away with one hell of a lot more than was ever seen before and felt that I could respond in kind...  Their "sensitivity" was on vacation so far as this subject was concerned..

Even so...  I think this has been healthy... A lot of stuff came out of it... people blew off steam.   I even tried to duck out of one thread.. the main one... when I said that we had all shot our wad and it was getting repetitive... I was accused of not having my points refuted and not having an answer!  silly...  

healthy I say... the rest of the communityu is seeing what makes up the guys who have killed gameplay and....

THE RULE

I didn't make up the rule... the rule is what is making fun of your squad and your friends.  your sticking to it no matter what it does to the community and you is what is making you look the way you accuse us of making you look..

you guys are your own worst enemy. (something the BK's have been accused of in the past and not without some justification I might add)

Now... you guys seem to be saying that rather than try to make things work like some other squads and one hell of a lot of individuals are doing....

that you don't care about anyone but yourselves and will never bend, even under pain of death.....

THE RULE   alligence to the dildo shaped icon is more important than the other players and the community.

That is the way I see it.

I would be just as "mean spirited" to any of the mega squads that took your attitude... it is you and THE RULE that is making you the target.

I will go on vacation sunday for a week...

I think that I will slink back off to the Olub after that... I will probly not be posting here much...  you can probly not hear much from me if you can get your drones to refrain from poking me with sharp sticks.

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« Reply #111 on: September 23, 2006, 12:26:11 PM »
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And understand that my resones for not doing so also must be wieghed.


What exactly are your reasons for letting two threads that are only bent on squad/player bashing go?  I thought y'all were worried about the unhealthiness of the game.  Letting crap like that go is not very healthy for the community, no matter which squad/player is being attacked.  That is where my original post about playing favorites comes from.  Why should they be ok for now, with a promise of stronger moderation later?    What, after another 10 threads of player bashing run their course?  Just so everyone knows, I wouldn't even let a whole page of I Hate Laz threads  go without griping.  It's not good for anyone, especially your business.  Why would someone thinking about subscribing even bother after seeing how people are treated in this game?  All they would see on this forum now is a bunch of internet tough guys bashing other players on just about every thred from the last 2 weeks.  Not a good way to attract new people.  But what do I know,  my squad ruined the game for everyone. HT, ty for responding to me.
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« Reply #112 on: September 23, 2006, 12:41:42 PM »
ranger...  the thread you pointed to I did not start.   I thank you for offering to defend me against "I hate laz" threads but...

I don't want or need your defence.   There have been such threads in the past..   they are generaly taken in the spirt of fun.

Hell...  storchita is the guy starting the thread not me and...  He used to hate the BK's more than anything else in the world.... if it wasn't for you guys and the way you play... we still would be top of the list.

Look at how kind he is to us in the threads?    Who is he meaner to... you or us?   Look at some of the things your guys have said to me and some of the other players...  

even allowing for your sensitivity... you don't seem too upset unless the insults are directed at you.   Maybe I am wrong but that is how it appears.

emotions are high... some feel that they finaly got a breath of fresh air and others feel that their world has collapsed.

I would ask you to look and see that it is the ones who feel that their world has collapsed that are the most vitriholic.

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« Reply #113 on: September 23, 2006, 12:59:51 PM »
I would say no member of my evil squad has ever started a thread attacking any player. Ever.  No you did not start the thread(s) in question, but you sure were ready to fill all of them with endless posts of how "bad" we are.  I've notice the only ones bashing us on all these threads are people that belong(ed) to the other countries.  I don't remember any Bish ever saying we were ruining their game, horders or loners.  In fact, I don't remember ever once running into you in'game over the last 3 or so years, ever.  So how did we ruin your game?  You're never even around us.  We are a large base-taking squad in this game.  I believe, at least on the Bish side, most squads are about taking bases.  Base taking was a large part of this game.  It was supposed to be.  If not, there would have been 1 uncapturable base per country, with no GVs, no bombers, no bombs.  I know you are a pure-furballist and we'll never agree.  I just don't see why you have to make endless posts condemning my squad when we are just playing the game the way it was made to be played.  You continuously cry about us hording and all that, yet I've never seen you lead/take part in 1 single counter attack or base defense.  Base taking is a part of this game, pure and simple.  We will continue to do so no matter who whines.  That is what we are into.  It is not evil.  It is not something we are or should be ashamed of.  It is the part of the game we like best.  We are allowed that option.  It is no better or worse than pure furballing, just different.  Like I said, I don't remember ever encountering you, so how did we ruin your fun?
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« Reply #114 on: September 23, 2006, 01:18:58 PM »
Ok... I guess that I will never get through to you.   I don't give you credit or blame you for the current state of affairs.

You guys weren't even original.  It started with some joint operations by other squads.   they steamrolled bases and made it kinda unfun but not the end of the world.

when it got bad was when other mega squads, like yours jumped in from other countries and did the same thing on a semi regular basis.    

even that would not be bad if you guys had fought each other but that isn't what happened is it?

What happened is that you all milkran undefended or unorganized fields and avoided the other mega squad milkrunners.  it was a hamster wheel supreme... if you seen an opportunity to gang bang you took it no matter what the people at the fight wanted.... if you felt that you weren't getting enough attention you bombed FH's or CV's (I say "you" in the broad sense... you were not alone in such behavior)

I see things improving and I see other squads trying to get things back on track but I see yours being stubborn and peevish...  

THE RULE....

   no matter how you avoid talking about it... it's out there now and it is indefensible so far as good gameplay and fairness is concerned.   you won't bend for the good of the community... I happen to think that you will regret it.  I happen to think it is worth bringing up when you guys make a preachy post about how good you are for a community you don't even know.

I watched some of your gameplay recently and ended up even more confused...  you coulda went to another arena where there were more tools for "base capture" MW (sorry MW guys) has room....

You want to be less of a target?  try being part of the solution instead of the problem or... show me another squad that is being as stuborn and peevish as yours.

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« Reply #115 on: September 23, 2006, 01:52:43 PM »
Lazs. I for one would really appreciate it if you could just let the "Rule" thing die.

Reading your last 2 or 3 post's has all the makings of keeping the fire alive. Can you see that if you re-read what you type?

Is it possible to turn it off?

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« Reply #116 on: September 23, 2006, 04:07:42 PM »
Laz2: While I agree fairly well with your assestment.

Please stop beating your head into a wall, because I think we both agree do to the recentent changes certain things have become inevitble. So no use continuing to pushing it in there faces, you just might be slowing down the inevitble.

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« Reply #117 on: September 23, 2006, 05:48:35 PM »
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Laz2: While I agree fairly well with your assestment.

Please stop beating your head into a wall, because I think we both agree do to the recentent changes certain things have become inevitble. So no use continuing to pushing it in there faces, you just might be slowing down the inevitble.

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« Reply #118 on: September 23, 2006, 06:18:03 PM »
And the inevitable would be....?(For HT only plz)
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« Reply #119 on: September 23, 2006, 08:45:32 PM »
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Laz2: While I agree fairly well with your assestment.

Please stop beating your head into a wall, because I think we both agree do to the recentent changes certain things have become inevitble. So no use continuing to pushing it in there faces, you just might be slowing down the inevitble.

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Every month I see this deduction for $14.95 for hitech creations. My total time in game over the last 15 months works out to about 37 bucks an hour.

I'm in the last cycle of a flightsimmer. HT knows the cycles. Looks as though from reading here and on other threads I might just drop back a couple of steps and find a fight.

Rumor has it, they're popping up again :aok
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