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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2006, 01:58:04 PM »
^^^ :rofl
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2006, 02:15:55 PM »
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just wait until you run into a mayfly convention.  it's funny to see them do the mating ritual then seemingly drop simultaneously.  as this is occurring 200 is full of the "I'm a member of a 90 player squad" song.  are they sheep or are they wolves? hyenas? amphetamine fueled chihuahuas?
 Several references to the Mayfly. Fly Fisherman?

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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2006, 02:32:32 PM »
There should be some contract you could sign with HTC, disallowing any command of a CV, any use of ground attack ordinance or use of the mission editor, and not be eligible to receive the fantastic Hawaii vacation (otherwise known as 25 perks at reset),  etc. that would allow you to change sides to the team with the lowest numbers as frequently as you wished.

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Re: Not much different in Mid War last night
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2006, 03:49:13 PM »
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About 5 of my buddies & I decided to leave EW & check out MW  last nite at about 9:30 pacific time. We entered as Rooks, but qickly realized that rooks had almost TRIPLE the numbers as bish & knits COMBINED. And, they were working together, focusing primarily on the knits.

So we switched to knits, lifted and headed for rookland, where we joined about 3 knits already in mid fight Vs 8-10 Rooks. Then I start seeing bases captured by bish, a quick view of the map showed they were knit bases-
The very few bish that were on, had decided to "back door" the undefended knit bases, rather than face the rooks and there numbers. Pathetic at best, IMO.


   Not to sound rude here but, it is sad that anyone would expect anything different. The current game setup dictates this behavior. It is perfectly normal for said phenomenon to result.

   The war is won by a reset. Normal thinking dictates that normal people want the reset to happen quickly, as apposed to day after day of hard work.

   I have seen many references to Baseball, Basketball ect... made in comparison to balance. The problem with those comparisons is that AH2 isn't a two-sided war. The third element creates something of a paradox where as “balance” is concerned.

  Everyone knows that diversion is a key tactic to winning any battle. AH2 makes it possible to use an unknown allie to acheive such a task.

  So switching sides to balance things out is kind of like doing a kidney transplant to cure someone’s heart disease.

 If balance is to be translated as evenly matched battle? Fogitaboudit. Even I (an uneducated man) know this isn’t going to happen with the current setup.

  Until AH2 removes the reset goal, reduces the country count to two countries, you can expect your described scenario to play out time and time again.

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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2006, 03:58:26 PM »
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:lol  Yes, Ram, they are. To some folks, the war, the country, the squad... is everybit as real as the world outside. Don't try to figure out why, just don't become like that.


  Insinuating that these players don’t know the difference from real life and a game is nothing more than ridicule and insulting by nature.

  I think it is just the aspect of the "game" that HTC has offered them that appeals to them the most.

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2006, 04:04:52 PM »
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Several references to the Mayfly. Fly Fisherman?
yes but only for bonefish and tarpon.  I've never tried trout fishing.

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2006, 04:05:10 PM »
It's kind of funny (and sad) that many here on the bbs complain about how others play the game. None have the right to dictate how another person plays and the tactics he/she uses.
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2006, 04:08:19 PM »
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Because the MA had become an anonym house complex where no one really knew each other or cared about each other. The noobs suffered from this.

But to get to the issues of numbers. Lately the EW numbers have swinged over to the MW. This isnt because of plane set or anything just because of the horrible map that is in EW.

You will see big shifts in arena numbers when there is a booring map.

Tex

I have to agree here. Map design will be a major part of the success or failure to this current setup.

  On another note: If HT were ever to setup a Zone system, the maps would also have to be designed around the premise that there be gaps from zone to zone.

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2006, 04:12:42 PM »
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yes but only for bonefish and tarpon.  I've never tried trout fishing.

Welp...you leave me dreaming again. (Never will get to experience the joy of the Flats) :(

  But its so cool you do. :)
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2006, 07:26:34 PM »
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It's kind of funny (and sad) that many here on the bbs complain about how others play the game. None have the right to dictate how another person plays and the tactics he/she uses.


It's a matter of perspective. The original "game" was called "Air Warrior", the 2nd evolution was called "War Bird's" and now we have "Aces High". Now to me all 3 indicate a primary focus on air combat. Pardon me if i'm mistaken but I think it's reasonable for me (and others) to believe that "air combat" is the primary focus.

Now if we take that one step further most of us grew up with some measure of competition...usually in sports...but also other venues...lets pick chess.

So in basketball you have normal 5 on 5...or 2 on 2 or 1 on 1...or horse etc...

Football you have tackle, touch "normal" 7 on 7, 2 on 2 with a shared QB...etc

Fencing you have foil, saber & epee...but alwasy two guys with swords...

Even in chess you have pieces with specific "moves"...your castle doesnt move like a bishop.

So going back to our little sim here, yes you have a "war" and war isnt fair. However you also have a "tradition" going back to "knights in the air". Back in AW (air warrior) you had a "3rd man in" rule. Basically you let a 1 on 2 go...the 3rd guy didnt pile on. why, simply to promote game play. Lots of folks will up into poor odd's but few will up repeatedly into a gangbang.

How you chose to fly in a smaller arena enviornment will affect who you have to fly against. We learned that in the CT....

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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2006, 08:18:41 PM »
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we haven't done a very good job of teaching the n00bs the right habits & etiquette.


they are having fun

to some people capturing bases is the idea of the game...... and you could argue this is true.... or why would HTC make it posible?

they had a "fight" for the base, killed defenders and started attacking the field. big deal.


its not THERE fault HTC split the arenas so theres NO players around to defend bases anymore. I mean i was on yesterday in Midwar with only 20 players on my side 30 on the other two. Bish managed to take 5 bases from knits, because the only defender was me. Once fuzeman, and a few others (sorry i forget names!) came back at them, we quickly recaptured them all. But rooks then did the same, and i logged because it was boring (re-)capturing undefend fields in a under populated arena.....

....but i guess 3 arenas is good for gameplay.:rofl
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2006, 09:40:21 PM »
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It's a matter of perspective. The original "game" was called "Air Warrior", the 2nd evolution was called "War Bird's" and now we have "Aces High". Now to me all 3 indicate a primary focus on air combat. Pardon me if i'm mistaken but I think it's reasonable for me (and others) to believe that "air combat" is the primary focus.

Now if we take that one step further most of us grew up with some measure of competition...usually in sports...but also other venues...lets pick chess.

So in basketball you have normal 5 on 5...or 2 on 2 or 1 on 1...or horse etc...

Football you have tackle, touch "normal" 7 on 7, 2 on 2 with a shared QB...etc

Fencing you have foil, saber & epee...but alwasy two guys with swords...

Even in chess you have pieces with specific "moves"...your castle doesnt move like a bishop.

So going back to our little sim here, yes you have a "war" and war isnt fair. However you also have a "tradition" going back to "knights in the air". Back in AW (air warrior) you had a "3rd man in" rule. Basically you let a 1 on 2 go...the 3rd guy didnt pile on. why, simply to promote game play. Lots of folks will up into poor odd's but few will up repeatedly into a gangbang.

How you chose to fly in a smaller arena enviornment will affect who you have to fly against. We learned that in the CT....



Air combat may be the primary focus but it's not the only focus. Air Warrior is dead, this is Aces High II. If it has other avenues of game play than AW the that's the way it is. The toys we have to play with were givin to us by HTC. No player in the game has the right to dictate how/when/where they are played with. This bbs is home to a small but very vocal group of people who constantly post they don't like "X" so "X" must go away. If you can't accept all that AHII has to offer then maybe AHII isn't right for you.
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2006, 04:35:56 AM »
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Air combat may be the primary focus but it's not the only focus. Air Warrior is dead, this is Aces High II. If it has other avenues of game play than AW the that's the way it is. The toys we have to play with were givin to us by HTC. No player in the game has the right to dictate how/when/where they are played with. This bbs is home to a small but very vocal group of people who constantly post they don't like "X" so "X" must go away. If you can't accept all that AHII has to offer then maybe AHII isn't right for you.


wow..... nicely put :aok
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2006, 06:19:12 AM »
no one has said "X" must go away.  please post evidence to support this statement.

most of the posts regarding "X" state that the poster considers "X" a lame player.

I don't want "X" to go away without prey animals we airsharks would starve.

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2006, 11:36:36 AM »
Oh how I enjoy seeing bishnits whining about numbers. Back in 2002-2003 when rooks spent months fighting 3:1 we got responses such as WAAAAAAAAAA on regular basis.

Same back at ya, friends. :D

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