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Offline LYNX

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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2006, 04:28:34 AM »
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Bruv119: I agree that is an issue.

The problem to solve, obviously some people belive , or are having more fun flying early war,mid war, or late war.

Seems to me that the  style of play for them are out waying the need to be in one arena.

All I ask is you give it some more time.

I have some ideas on a comprimise at off peek times, but Im not totaly sure how the off peek times will settle out in the end.

I apoligize to the off peek players, because the recent change wasn't realy aimed at that time frame.

If you have ideas other than (turn it back to what it was) I would be glad to hear them.

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I'm a Brit and off peak split by 3 = less targets + more time to contact. It's slow...... we all agree.

Personally I know of a beat up old truck parked in a field by the side of the M6 thats bill board space is 3.95 per week <$5,50>. A picture of a Spitfire shooting a ME109 and in big letters http://WWW.FLYACESHIGH.COM is all thats needed.

M6 = couple of million vehicles a month. Built 35 years ago and begging for a fourth lane. Arterial motorway Joins the M1 linking middle England to the North West. Passes Birmingham . Middle England Britains largest manufacturing base. Motor industries, heavy industries, aircraft industries you name it, besides all the McD's, call centers, Bank /Insurance HQ's.

Then again a full page add in the Sundays is a snip at $90,000.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2006, 04:41:36 AM »
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Bruv119: I agree that is an issue.

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I apoligize to the off peek players, because the recent change wasn't realy aimed at that time frame.

If you have ideas other than (turn it back to what it was) I would be glad to hear them.

HiTech


Think i mentioned it before, but you know how you kick in an extra LW arena once the cap is reached, well how about doing something similar in reverse for off-peak times? Eg take servers away when numbers drop to a min of 2 arenas (one Mid-Late, the other Early-Mid) and use the perk system to balance those two with some tweaking?

So i guess my suggestion is as the numbers drop off, you close the MW arena and extend the time period the other two arenas cover to take up the years the MW arena used to. Then at a certain time or number has been reached, open the MW, and change the LW/MW and EW/MW back to LW, and EW respectively.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2006, 04:42:16 AM »
I'm in the USA but I love flying to the early morning hrs, so experience the same low #'s. this morning in MW it was me vs 9 Rooks for quite awhile.

MW seems to always have low players in it.  I really thought that the MW was going to be the big hit, but for some reason alot of people ignore it.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2006, 05:09:54 AM »
I'd love to see some overlapping for the time period arenas...
1939 -----------------------1945

e.g.

-----EWA--+++|-----LWA--+++
       -----MWA--+++


-  free planes
+ perked planes

or with just 2 arenas (thinking the off peek hours)


-----EWA--+++
         -----LWA--+++


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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2006, 05:22:32 AM »
If the EWA and MWA switched to even smaller maps with maybe only 2 sides on them when the number are low (kindof H2H map), it wouldn't be hard to have a good fight and would make an interresting counter proposal to LWA
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2006, 05:31:57 AM »
I think the solution is to find some sort of advertising channel in europe and australia, there are enough guys who would like to play but dont know the game i think.

Might be worth it for that to wait till combat tour kicked off... would target england/germany/spain.

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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2006, 05:47:04 AM »
What about a bloody TT of FT with bases that CANNOT BE CAPTURED!!  Logged on last night and couldn't even go in TT, only would have been a T34, but I still would have liked to have that option.... but the Bish had taken the enitre Island....  
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2006, 05:49:35 AM »
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I think the solution is to find some sort of advertising channel in europe and australia, there are enough guys who would like to play but dont know the game i think.


yeah but add non english characters ingame then, nobody from spain or other countries will stick to a game where they can't use their own language. A lot of euro players try the game but a few (rofl) stay.
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2006, 06:06:01 AM »
Great posts guys.

let me summarise:

1:  New smaller maps were fights can be more easily accessible to low numbers.

2:  Bridge the arenas to  Early-Mid  and Mid-late.

3.  Look into a cheap, viable marketing solutions (good idea lynx)

4.  Language packs for non english speakers (Japan FA has this, spanish)


Combat tour can surely be used to promote new customers who would then trickle into the main arenas to sharpen their skills.....

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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2006, 06:13:45 AM »
Bruv, at first I was kind of surprised that everyone flocked to LW. To me MW has the best matched plane set of all arenas. Inherently I feel the German planes have the advantage in EW. By mid-war most of the allied planes were well matched to the German planes. By late war Germany was falling behind in both quality and quantity.

But then when all planes were enabled in LW, it made sense that everyone goes there. When they did that, they created a mini old style MA.

So, here's an idea for all arenas. What if you take the actual percentage of a particular plane that was made in WWII and apply it to the arenas? Something like the Tempest, we know about 800 were built. For arguement sake let's say that's 1% of overall fighter production in WWII. Apply a 1% limit in the arenas. So, if there are 150 people flying in an arena only 2 Tempests can be in the air at one time. Apply this to all planes and you pretty much even things out. This might cause people to explore the other arenas. And it would provide a more realistic fighting environment.

Or carry it one step further and enable plane sets by country. ie: Axis=Rooks, Allied= Knights, US=Bishops. That also might spread things out a little more.
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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2006, 06:41:40 AM »
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Bruv, at first I was kind of surprised that everyone flocked to LW. To me MW has the best matched plane set of all arenas. Inherently I feel the German planes have the advantage in EW. By mid-war most of the allied planes were well matched to the German planes. By late war Germany was falling behind in both quality and quantity.

But then when all planes were enabled in LW, it made sense that everyone goes there. When they did that, they created a mini old style MA.

So, here's an idea for all arenas. What if you take the actual percentage of a particular plane that was made in WWII and apply it to the arenas? Something like the Tempest, we know about 800 were built. For arguement sake let's say that's 1% of overall fighter production in WWII. Apply a 1% limit in the arenas. So, if there are 150 people flying in an arena only 2 Tempests can be in the air at one time. Apply this to all planes and you pretty much even things out. This might cause people to explore the other arenas. And it would provide a more realistic fighting environment.

Or carry it one step further and enable plane sets by country. ie: Axis=Rooks, Allied= Knights, US=Bishops. That also might spread things out a little more.


If they wanted to be in the MW arena, they'd be there.
Obviously they don't.
So why add 'blocks' to try and force them there, recipe for disaster.

Tempests are only available LW anyway, your argument has a serious flaw. It's not as though you could jump to another earlier arena and up one.
Same goes for all planes only available in the LW arena, all it would affect is the planes available in LW that are also available in EW and MW.

I feel for you lot over the pond though, this whole [cough] "change for the better"  has affected you extremely negatively.
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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2006, 06:58:53 AM »
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I'm a Brit and off peak split by 3 = less targets + more time to contact. It's slow...... we all agree.

Personally I know of a beat up old truck parked in a field by the side of the M6 thats bill board space is 3.95 per week <$5,50>. A picture of a Spitfire shooting a ME109 and in big letters http://WWW.FLYACESHIGH.COM is all thats needed.

M6 = couple of million vehicles a month. Built 35 years ago and begging for a fourth lane. Arterial motorway Joins the M1 linking middle England to the North West. Passes Birmingham . Middle England Britains largest manufacturing base. Motor industries, heavy industries, aircraft industries you name it, besides all the McD's, call centers, Bank /Insurance HQ's.

Then again a full page add in the Sundays is a snip at $90,000.


Have to say I love this idea... the first time I visited the U.K it seemed to me that I ran into a small aviation museum every day... unintended. (I was testing sat-nav at the time). I guess lots of Britons will like the idea of Aces High.

If the add on that truck draws a lot of attention, you even might get some media coverage out of it.

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« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2006, 07:02:03 AM »
Think I suggested some time ago they may consider donating a PC with AH2 on it to a museum, and include a skin of one of the museums aircraft in the game.
Sort of "you've seen the plane, now try it" thing, lot cheaper perhaps, reaches the right people also.
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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2006, 08:09:27 AM »
There's a big market for AH outside of the US. The problem with AH marketing is that EU players (and Israeli players like myself) can only find this game by chance or through a friend.

I found it just by browsing the web, stumbling uppon simHQ.com and there I've read about AH with 2 weeks free trial. Pure, chance. No one I've spoken with where I live has ever heard of this game, though a few Israelies did play this game. A lot more have heard about WWIIOL and played it so I guess this is all about the ads. Also, AH is not listed in most MMO games lists on games websites and in very few sites under flight-sims, unless this is a dedicated sim website.

AH needs wider internet publicity on websites visited by non-US potential players. Emphesize the free H2H and free 2 weeks. This is a big "what the heck, I'll give it a try" factor that can do wonders in bringing in new players and players from different time zones.
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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2006, 10:21:10 AM »
Guess you guys didn't know we did do TV avertising in the UK with a 1 week test run.

I do like the truck add idea, if your inerested in helping coradinate it, Id be more than happy to buy the space at that rate.

Kev: have done that sorta thing also, realy dosn't work very well.

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