Did you catch Clinton on Fox News?

[rpm]

If Bush ever gave an interview like that to CNN you guys would be doing backflips, calling him the gr3at3st ev4r and spend long sessions in the conservative chatrooms late at night.

He gave a solid interview with solid answers. He addressed the "fair and balanced" aspects of the reporters forum. He took responsability for what happened during his term and asks this president to do the same. Republicans were against his military actions when he was in office, now democrats are against Bush's. Maybe if the republicans had been looking for bin Laden as hard as they were looking for Lewinski things would be much different for everyone today. And by the way, he IS smarter than most of the people in the room.

It's good to see a Democrat with a set of balls again. (No pun intended)

[Mini D]

Originally posted by LePaul
Look, a discussion with you is always an exercise in dealing with your trite insults.    I'll pass.

Where's the discussion again LePaul? You're posting links. Links that are even sillier "once you get past the..." aspect of things.

There's plenty of reasons to dislike clinton and he was as impotent as any president we've had. But on this subject, there is no winner. Clinton and the republicans were more focussed about the lewinski ordeal than anything else... terrorism included.

[Mini D]

Originally posted by ByeBye
A normal nuke post

Heya nuke. If you ever get tired of being yourself, you could try being a real person.

[storch]

Originally posted by Mini D
Where's the discussion again LePaul? You're posting links. Links that are even sillier "once you get past the..." aspect of things.

There's plenty of reasons to dislike clinton and he was as impotent as any president we've had. But on this subject, there is no winner. Clinton and the republicans were more focussed about the lewinski ordeal than anything else... terrorism included.

that is a very good assessment.

[Hap]

Originally posted by Shuckins
The single most important duty of the federal government is to secure the nation against its enemies, foreign and domestic.

Shuckins, your statement is worth discussion.   --"in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"-- Might the other 5 "duties" rival defense?

Regards,

hap

[Silat]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Wow... Did you  guys read that? What exactly did he dodge? Sounds like he gave Wallace a slap down. And he answered every question.

Exactly.. They didnt really read it. They just hate...

Here is a bit of a reminder for all you righties who dont think your guys flip flop:

Republicans react to Clinton over Kosovo
By: John Amato on Wednesday, August 17th, 2005 at 1:18 PM - PDT  
Why did they second-guess our commitment to freedom from genocide and demand that we cut and run?

 " President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be
away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."

-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)
 
"No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That’s why I’m against it."

-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99
 
"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery.  Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
 
"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
 
-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush

Why did they demoralize our brave men and women in uniform?
 
"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning…I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)
 

"You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo."

-Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99
 

"Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years"

-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)
 

"I’m on the Senate Intelligence Committee, so you can trust me and believe me when I say we’re running out of cruise missles. I can’t tell you exactly how many we have left, for security reasons, but we’re almost out of cruise missles."
 
-Senator Inhofe (R-OK )
 
"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarifiedrules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
 
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
 
"I don’t know that Milosevic will ever raise a white flag"
 
-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)
 
"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
 
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

Why didn’t they support our president in a time of war?
 

"Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
 
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)
 

"This is President Clinton’s war, and when he falls flat on his face, that’s his problem."
 
-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

[Silat]

"The two powers that have ICBMs that can reach the United States are Russia and China. Here we go in. We’re taking on not just Milosevic. We can’t just say, ‘that little guy, we can whip him.’ We have these two other powers that have missiles that can reach us, and we have zero defense thanks to this president."
 
-Senator James Inhofe (R-OK)
 

"You can support the troops but not the president"
 
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
 

"My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they’re made … not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do."
 
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)
 

"For us to call this a victory and to commend the President of the United States as the Commander in Chief showing great leadership in Operation Allied Force is a farce"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

Why did they blame America first?
 
Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly."
 
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
 

"Once the bombing commenced, I think then Milosevic unleashed his forces, and then that’s when the slaughtering and the massive ethnic cleansing really started"
 
-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)
 
"
Clinton’s bombing campaign has caused all of these problems to explode"
 
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
 

"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo’s capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"
 
-Pat Buchanan (R)
 

"These international war criminals were led by Gen. Wesley Clark …who clicked his shiny heels for the commander-in-grief, Bill Clinton."
 
-Michael Savage
 

"This has been an unmitigated disaster … Ask the Chinese embassy. Ask all the people in Belgrade that we’ve killed. Ask the refugees that we’ve killed. Ask the people in nursing homes. Ask the people in hospitals."
 
-Representative Joe Scarborough (R-FL)
 

"It is a remarkable spectacle to see the Clinton Administration and NATO taking over from the Soviet Union the role of sponsoring "wars of national liberation."
 
-Representative Helen Chenoweth (R-ID)
 

"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo’s capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"
 
-Pat Buchanan (R )
 

"By the order to launch air strikes against Serbia, NATO and President Clinton have entered uncharted territory in mankind’s history. Not even Hitler’s grab of the Sudetenland in the 1930s, which eventually led to WW II, ranks as a comparable travesty. For, there are no American interests whatsoever that the NATO bombing will either help, or protect; only needless risks to which it exposes the American soldiers and assets, not to mention the victims on the ground in Serbia."
 
-Bob Djurdjevic, founder of Truth in Media

[Silat]

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/25/olbermanns-special-comment-are-yours-the-actions-of-a-true-american/

Tell it like it is Keith...............

[Eagler]

what does Kosovo (and the above quoted republicans being totally wrong about our involment in it) have to due with slicks refusal to do anything about OBL for 8 years?
if he wasn't guilty in his heart, he wouldn't have lost his cool about the subject matter on national tv like he did.
Heck, he was caught with his pants down in the Oval office and he didn't get that excited about it ... then again he was a screw bunny his entire political career.
He screwed up and he knows it. Has to be a terrible burden to lug around for the rest of his life. Almost makes you feel sorry for him .... almost.

[Shuckins]

Hap,  if the nation is not secure the other five duties, more appropriately defined as "goals," become unattainable, and aren't worth a spoiled fig.

Regards, Shuckins

[bj229r]

another liberal echo chamber thread:noid

[Shifty]

Originally posted by midnight Target
This thread is getting funnier and funnierer.

It will never be as funny as your boy was Sunday. . Imagine the comedy had the press treated him with the same disrespect they treat Bush. Clinton would never have been able to handle it for a month much less years. One little question and he pulled his skirt over his head.


Said it before....................... .....

owned

[Rameusb5]

As if Clinton could say ANYTHING and have you guys not critisize it.


Same goes for the rest about Bush.


The whole conversation is stupid.  BOTH Presidents failed us (in terms of protecting us from Terrorists).  Miserably.


No more excuses.  No more BS.



BOTH administrations are incredibly guilty of shifting blame.  If you REALLY think that either administration did better than the other in defending against the 9/11 attacks, you need to loosen your tinfoil hat a few notches.


At least Clarke had the balls to appologise for it.  Something that I've seen NOBODY else do.


Stop caring what the media says.  **** the media.  They, like everyone else, have an agenda.  They're now nothing but a propaganda machine.  Do you REALLY think that some deuchbag reporter can "PWN" the president or ex-president?  HA!  It's awful easy to ask the tough questions when you yourself aren't under scrutiny.  I'd ****ing LOVE to turn that mic around and start forcing THOSE deuchbags a question or two.  See how "perfect" those *******s are.

[Mightytboy]

Originally posted by Gh0stFT
But he is the one who is responsible, who else?
wrong mission accomplished, now search to blame others.

He IS the one who sent us to war that much I'll give you.

At the time it was the right mission and it was accomplished. Saddam was overthrown just as we set out to do.

[BTW]

Originally posted by Rameusb5
As if Clinton could say ANYTHING and have you guys not critisize it.


Same goes for the rest about Bush.


The whole conversation is stupid.  BOTH Presidents failed us (in terms of protecting us from Terrorists).  Miserably.


No more excuses.  No more BS.



BOTH administrations are incredibly guilty of shifting blame.  If you REALLY think that either administration did better than the other in defending against the 9/11 attacks, you need to loosen your tinfoil hat a few notches.


At least Clarke had the balls to appologise for it.  Something that I've seen NOBODY else do.


Stop caring what the media says.  **** the media.  They, like everyone else, have an agenda.  They're now nothing but a propaganda machine.  Do you REALLY think that some deuchbag reporter can "PWN" the president or ex-president?  HA!  It's awful easy to ask the tough questions when you yourself aren't under scrutiny.  I'd ****ing LOVE to turn that mic around and start forcing THOSE deuchbags a question or two.  See how "perfect" those *******s are.

Amen

The rhetoric is so thick, people are amazed when the government acts is a normal government manner - slow, lumbering, bureaucratic, inefficient, and a little insane. Neither side worried about OBL until they absolutely had to.