Author Topic: Great Speech by Senator on Global Warming (Read 1396 times)

Sabre · « **on:** September 26, 2006, 11:51:04 AM »

Very long, but very enlightening. Which ever side of the debat you're on, the point about media bias (read as "advocacy") on the global warming alarmism is hard to ignore. Especially impactful are the media headlines and quotes from different times in the last 100+ years.

Link:
http://epw.senate.gov/speechitem.cfm?party=rep&id=263759

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 26, 2006, 12:07:40 PM »

Interesting read, thanks for the post.

I am sure the Fanatics on both sides will be here soon though

Gunslinger · « **Reply #2 on:** September 26, 2006, 12:30:24 PM »

Good read!

I think the biggest thing that sticks out with me reguarding this issue is there's one side that's convinced it's going to happen and there's the other side that just wants "honest science" to prove it either way.

T0J0 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 26, 2006, 12:32:51 PM »

My dog looks more tired lately, I naturely assumed it was global warming....

Gunslinger · « **Reply #4 on:** September 26, 2006, 12:33:06 PM »

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Originally posted by T0J0
My dog looks more tired lately, I naturely assumed it was global warming....

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 26, 2006, 12:34:04 PM »

Hardly Guns. Both sides take up the issue with the idea that the other side is ****ing crazy.

The truth is we don't know. Nor does it really matter. The amount of temperature drop or raise over the last century is insignificant compared to what earth and life has gone through in the past.

Nilsen · « **Reply #6 on:** September 26, 2006, 01:04:02 PM »

Point is that there is absolutly no harm in assuming that we are causing problems and doing something to reduce all emitions. If we are wrong, and we are not causing them then no harm done.

If we are assuming that we are not the cause of the rise in temperature etc and are wrong about then we are truly screwed.

Better to be safe than sorry.

Airscrew · « **Reply #7 on:** September 26, 2006, 01:17:20 PM »

James Inhofe for President... I like him, he pissesoff leftys

J_A_B · « **Reply #8 on:** September 26, 2006, 01:23:23 PM »

"Point is that there is absolutly no harm in assuming that we are causing problems and doing something to reduce all emitions. If we are wrong, and we are not causing them then no harm done."

Economic harm?

Harm to standards of living?

There's plenty of harm caused by over-reacting to an issue you don't understand.

J_A_B

Nilsen · « **Reply #9 on:** September 26, 2006, 01:51:31 PM »

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Originally posted by J_A_B
"Point is that there is absolutly no harm in assuming that we are causing problems and doing something to reduce all emitions. If we are wrong, and we are not causing them then no harm done."

Economic harm?

Harm to standards of living?

There's plenty of harm caused by over-reacting to an issue you don't understand.

J_A_B

Always has been plenty of money to make in new things. The world is a changing and evolving place and we cannot expect that everything is the way it always has been. Tough luck as always for those who wont change. We cant live in the comfort of our parents home until we die and we cant expect that everything we know and do now will last forever. By doing things the way we are we are only risking the future of our kids and grandkids.

Huge difference between reacting and over-reacting.

Gh0stFT · « **Reply #10 on:** September 26, 2006, 01:59:02 PM »

check this pictures out, some are 100 years old and are compared to today pics. (press WEITER for the next pic)

Glaciers melting,
global warming a hype?

Airscrew · « **Reply #11 on:** September 26, 2006, 02:07:48 PM »

all those pictures prove is that the climate on this planet changes. Show me some pictures of the same areas in 900AD, 1300AD, 1700, and 1800.

Hap · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2006, 02:18:16 PM »

Anyone who says we're we're not negatively affecting the enviroment is just nuts. We're poking holes in our own raft for bucks. It's insane.

Substantive discussion revolves on what to do. That is a mare's nest.

Regards,

hap

Gh0stFT · « **Reply #13 on:** September 26, 2006, 02:30:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Airscrew
all those pictures prove is that the climate on this planet changes. Show me some pictures of the same areas in 900AD, 1300AD, 1700, and 1800.

sorry i doubt anyone have pics from that time, do you have?
but what we have are pics from our life-time.

J_A_B · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2006, 02:33:00 PM »

That's another thing which intrigues me: How can everyone be so sure that any climate change must be bad?

Granted, if sea levels rise we would lose some coastline and oceanside infrastructure (there's that pesky economic issue again), but in terms of overall land we'd also gain as currently useless areas become habitable. Siberia could probably stand to warm a bit.

I see this same sort of issue with the animal lovers--all extinction *must* be bad, regardless of how some amount of extinction has always happened. I think we're gettiong along just fine without the dodos, and I also think we'll get along just fine if the Earth warms a couple degrees.

Fearmongering and overreaction sells more papers, though.

J_A_B