Someone help me understand.....

[SlapShot]

any toolshed mission should have fighters without eggs to do the dogfighting. This is what frustrates me, as that furballers COULD join in, like they did in the old days, and help base captures. instead they whine the map hasnt got FT's.

Furballers would come in first, kill any defenders, then move on to next bases once the toolsheders have done there work... Moving on, would be to the next base which might supply the base thats under attack....

I have gone on missions or followed the horde on occasion and the fighter escort is, for all intents and purposes ... score-potato vulchers ... they care not for the fight ... just how many kills that they can get before the defenders can get wheels up ... and if the defenders do get wheels up, most of these l33t fighters get their bellybutton handed to 'em.

No thanks ... I really dont care to stand in the Deli line waiting for my turn to get a kill.

[hubsonfire]

I know it's fun to insult BKs, but does anyone care to offer some insight into why the eutopian base capture war that you speak so reverently of does not exist, and why, with fighting for captures being such a magnificent challenge, people instead continue to horde and milkrun?

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by SlapShot
I have gone on missions or followed the horde on occasion and the fighter escort is, for all intents and purposes ... score-potato vulchers ... they care not for the fight ... just how many kills that they can get before the defenders can get wheels up ... and if the defenders do get wheels up, most of these l33t fighters get their bellybutton handed to 'em.

No thanks ... I really dont care to stand in the Deli line waiting for my turn to get a kill.

Another excellent post.   So damn true Slap.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
I know it's fun to insult BKs, but does anyone care to offer some insight into why the eutopian base capture war that you speak so reverently of does not exist, and why, with fighting for captures being such a magnificent challenge, people instead continue to horde and milkrun?

...why....it is the structure of war, that's why!

- oldman (geez, some people just don't pay attention)

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Oldman731
...why....it is the structure of war, that's why!

- oldman (geez, some people just don't pay attention)

This ISN'T war.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
This ISN'T war.

And Oldman wasn't being sarcastic, not even a little bit

[MIShill]

Originally posted by Widewing
They won't.... My solution would be that when ENY restriction gets to 10, all ground targets double in hardness (for all countries). At an ENY restriction of 20, hardness doubles again. Limited to flying nearly useless aircraft would be exacerbated by needing 12,000 lbs to kill a hanger or 1,000 lbs to kill one building in a town.

This would not limit capturing bases if the numbers were reasonably even, but it would make base captures all but impossible when the numbers were like I saw them in the MW arena at 8 PM eastern tonight: Bish 31 Knit 4 Rook 22. Certainly, the horde would have to return and rearm, even if they had decent aircraft to begin with.

This might result in some side switching to even out the numbers. If not, let them toil in futility.....

My regards,

Widewing

As the Guinness guys say- Brilliant! That would certainly help.
-MI-

[50cals]

HT has taken away what has been fun for many years and changes it to this rediculous format of "3" arenas.

Today i log in and see that first arena has 50ppl, 2nd has 80 and 3rd is full and they add another lw friggin arena that has 20ppl................. wth kind of mentality is this??????????  are you thinking properly?  

WTG HT

[Arlo]

Originally posted by 50cals
HT has taken away what has been fun for many years and changes it to this rediculous format of "3" arenas.

Today i log in and see that first arena has 50ppl, 2nd has 80 and 3rd is full and they add another lw friggin arena that has 20ppl................. wth kind of mentality is this??????????  are you thinking properly?  

WTG HT

You've been reading "How to Influence People and Win Friends", eh?

[hubsonfire]

HT is thinking as clearly as anyone from Texas can after consuming the amount of Scotch Whiskey we've sent him. Welcome to the new cartoon reality, sponsored in part by....

++The Blue Knights++.

 

In case you missed it, the "are freaking stupid?!?!?!11?!" tactic has already been tried, and it didn't do much either. Scotch talks, BS walks. Trust.

[lazs2]

overlag... again... you assume that the furballers are interested in if the field is taken or not.  As slap said... fighter cover for you guys is no fighter action at all.

I only care if the fight is good.  If the field is taken it means nothing to me.

flayed explained what he thought was good gameplay... getting his squad organized to even up field capture and overall numbers.

An arena where the numbers are 20-100 and 110 and  there are two good fights going on of 10-20 guys on each side meeting somewhere in the middle ground is infinetly better than 75 75 and 75 with 30 guys from each country attacking and capping fields with no FH's and maybe a couple of IL2's trying to get their wheels up or 10 flaks...

Good gameplay is local parity not overlall parity.   good gameplay can happen if one country is down to 4 fields.   Bad gameplay can happen if one squad from each country is hitting lightly defended fields and the overall numbers are even.

you admited that your strat was to drop the FH's.... now how does that promote a good fight?   How does killing the radar make for good fights?

I see it all the time.. field is undamaged except for radar.   How can you have good fights with no radar except by accident?

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[indy007]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
HT is thinking as clearly as anyone from Texas can after consuming the amount of Scotch Whiskey we've sent him. Welcome to the new cartoon reality, sponsored in part by....

++The Blue Knights++.

 

In case you missed it, the "are freaking stupid?!?!?!11?!" tactic has already been tried, and it didn't do much either. Scotch talks, BS walks. Trust.

I <3 BKs




just wait until I start stalking you all now.

[Overlag]

Originally posted by lazs2


overlag... again... you assume that the furballers are interested in if the field is taken or not.  As slap said... fighter cover for you guys is no fighter action at all.

I only care if the fight is good.  If the field is taken it means nothing to me.

i didnt say you cared... but the problem is, people dont defend anymore, so fights dont really happen when people are trying to take bases

Originally posted by lazs2

you admited that your strat was to drop the FH's.... now how does that promote a good fight?   How does killing the radar make for good fights?

I see it all the time.. field is undamaged except for radar.   How can you have good fights with no radar except by accident?

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

i didnt admit that my "strat" was to drop FH's, i said something along the lines that "base capture guys will have to drop hangers if they dont have figher cover", It is also the reason why fights rarely happen, because furballers wont "attack", nor defend.

Ive never dropped FH at field*. Ive dropped BH when attacking with CV, as well as VH


*thats infact a lie, i remember the "good ole days" where we (3 dif squads) dropped hangers at 3 different fields, then went on to fight outside 2 other close bases, while strat guys took the defenceless bases.


edit: it also worries me that you need radar for a good fight?????
edit2: you also seem to think im a strat guy? well thats wrong too

[TexMurphy]

Originally posted by Guppy35
What is the fun in rolling up undefended fields and 'winning the reset"?

Dan,

In all honesty I do think that its "the only way they know" how to play the game.

Scenario.

New player comes to AH.

Dweeb: "Hey guys whats the goal of this game?"
Semi Vet: "To win the map."
Dweeb: "Ok how can I help?"
Semi Vet: "We are attacking A43 come here."
Dweeb: "Ok."

Tbh the community is getting worse and worse at taking care of dweebs. Partially because the game is growing much faster then before and partially because alot of vets have their head so far up the whaaaambulance that they forget whats important.

For me AH is "the joy of the fight" and I think its the same for you.

I know I can say in all honesty that since new years Ive spread this message to exactly ZERO dweebs.

I dont know about you but have you been any better at educating the dweebs then Ive been?

I seriously think that the only way to avoid the hoard is to teach pilots to enjoy fights and enjoy dieing. If they arnt tought to enjoy fighting and dieing they will game the game.

Tex

[lazs2]

overlag.. not picking on you because, in fact, I don't know how you play but..

The reason no one defends anymore is because... of the mega squads with so many suicide porkers.   There is no point in "defending" a field as the attackers come in hot with huge waves of high alt plane...  the good ones take out the ack (the radar is usually allready out) and then take out anyone who is lifting from the field.   any kills are from someone in a high alt foxhole waiting for a risk free kill... the FH's are then dropped.

radar...  with far fields.. the bar means nothing.  for groups of 2 or 3... rellying on the bar is foolish.. it will never be anything like what you thought when you eventualy do get there.    The dot dar promotes good fights...  if you see even bars and your red dots half way between the fields and your guys on the way.... goooooood fight-0-coming.

A good fight is also when a CV is in the area and the planes all meet somewhere in between and...  face it.. the CV doesn't launch many monsters...  the fastest planes are F4U's and they don't have time to get to alt or speed... good fights.

In the above two cases... good fights insue... maybe it is new guys... maybe griefers but.... there is allways someone who wants to kill the FH's or the CV's in this case... there are allready plenty of fields being whorded and... plenty of fields but... they come to the only good fights to kill the action.

That is why the arena split is so nice... we have been able to make some bad behavior go away in the smaller populations...  the new guys will learn faster too.   a griefer stands out and gets a heap of scorn... more attention than they want.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's