lousy fights..

[E25280]

Originally posted by Donzo
Dear HTC,

Can you please (please, please, please) add a new arena to the MA?

I would like to see an arena named Laz's Playpen.

I would like you to also force all new players into this arena for a minimum of 6 hours before they can fly in any other arena.

I think this would go a long way in conditioning all of the n00b's to play this game the way it was meant to be played....Laz's way.

Regards,
Donzo

You provide the perfect opening for this quote taken from a different thread. . .

Originally posted by Hitech
For instance lets look at what I view as Laz's ideal arena taken to exess.

Air starts 5k off deck. No bombers,no scoring , artifical box aound the play field, that if you run you are blown up. All planes turning style planes, with no planes faster than others.

This would create one fast paced, continues quick action furball. But what are the side effects.
1. New players would burn out fairly quickly.
2. Will to live dimisish greatly.
3. You never get that successfull feeling of beating the odds, and living to tell the tail.
4. You have very little time to socialize with other players.

So while some furballers would say, hey thats all good stuff, I belive AH would be dead long ago if thats all it was.

[storch]

great post indy, sadly there are those who will never, ever get it.

[indy007]

Originally posted by storch
great post indy, sadly there are those who will never, ever get it.

Storch feels the fury.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by E25280
You provide the perfect opening for this quote taken from a different thread. . .

You need to quote the post in it's entirity ... HT has issues with both sides of the fence.

Originally posted by hitech
FALCONWING: Please do not confuse my post as bop bashing. I have never stated the Bops wanted to always be on the country side with numbers. Nore do I belive game play like the Bops "win the war" stratagy is a bad thing. Nor do I belive coradinating tatics as a bad thing.

This is exatly the same as I view the laz type game play, I do not belive wanting to just find the closest fight is a bad thing either.

I allso do not belive country or squad loaylty is a bad thing.

All have there place In AH.

But problems arise when any of the above are taken to excess.
For instance lets look at what I view as Laz's ideal arena taken to exess.

Air starts 5k off deck. No bombers,no scoring , artifical box aound the play field, that if you run you are blown up. All planes turning style planes, with no planes faster than others.

This would create one fast paced, continues quick action furball. But what are the side effects.
1. New players would burn out fairly quickly.
2. Will to live dimisish greatly.
3. You never get that successfull feeling of beating the odds, and living to tell the tail.
4. You have very little time to socialize with other players.

So while some furballers would say, hey thats all good stuff, I belive AH would be dead long ago if thats all it was.

It is my belief that creating an "Air force" like the Bop's is a also form of exess.

So I don't view your post as "suspicion".

I do view it as you put

1. Loyalty to "Air Force".
2. Loyalty to "Country"
3. Creating a Sudo realy Air Force, with simalar rules.
4. Creating one of the larger Air Forces in AH.

Above the need for ah's over all game play.

And your post while not stating the above resones I see it as an attempt to try put your rules above  AH's game play. I also do not think that you are trying to do this dilibertaly (I.E. I do not believe you think My way or AH be damed)

I view you more like,

These would be your thoughts.
"I see problems like  Imbalance  , lower arena limits,less friendly arenas then of old. But I think that we can change other things to still let me implemnt my "Air force" pryorities.


What I believe you do not see , is simply you have taken it to exess.

HiTech

[Guppy35]

Last nights Latewar numbers support Hitech's thoughts about excess.  184 Bish (BoPs being Bish) 91 Knits, 97 Rooks, when I logged on.

Yep, well balanced

[Stang]

Yeah, but Dan you remember what happened when we headed up to A3 when a swarm of them popped up.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Stang
Yeah, but Dan you remember what happened when we headed up to A3 when a swarm of them popped up.

It was a bit of a one sided blood bath wasn't it

[Stang]

Most one sided slaughter in a large scale engagement I've seen in ages.

Good fun.

[E25280]

Originally posted by SlapShot
You need to quote the post in it's entirity ... HT has issues with both sides of the fence.

The only "side of the fence" I have referred to in this thread is Lazs' inability to deal with the fact that his way is NOT the "only" way, nor the "right" way, despite his continual insistence that anyone who doesn't play like he does "doesn't get it."  According to Hitech's post, Lazs doesn't exactly "get it" either.

Someone disagreed with Lazs' take on the game.  Lazs pulls out some idiocy about stats as if it "proves" something, and concludes that somehow that makes opinions contrary to his "wrong".  To which I call BS.  To which Hitech's post attests.

And in that context, what Hitech also says about the BOPs is irrelevant.

Bottom line:  The game is what you make of it.  There is no right or wrong way.  Plenty of room for everybody.  One size does NOT fit all - claiming that it does is bunk.

If I have been inconsistent in that message, please correct me.  

[hitech]

E25280: Your mistaken if you take my post as me saying Laz dosn't get it,

He was just used by me as an example. If you look at most of laz's post he normaly is just pushing back when the "strat" guys start pushing things to the extream.

HiTech

[E25280]

Originally posted by hitech
E25280: Your mistaken if you take my post as me saying Laz dosn't get it,

He was just used by me as an example. If you look at most of laz's post he normaly is just pushing back when the "strat" guys start pushing things to the extream.

HiTech

I respectfully disagree with your take on his posts.  I find a great many of them to be disrespectful to put it mildly, often with no more provocation that stating an alternate view.

But there is that "opinion" thing again.  Yours is the only one that holds weight here.

And if "doesn't get it" is too strong, I apologize for putting words in your mouth.

 never mind, silly question.

Guess I am done with this one.  

[hitech]

I find a great many of them to be disrespectful to put it mildly

This I do aggree with.

HiTech

[Edbert]

Originally posted by E25280
Indy, great post.  But it pre-supposes that everyone is out for the same thing -- to get better and become the best cartoon pilot there is.  

Just to chime in...speaking for myself only...as always...

I gave up on becoming the best pile-it there is long ago, about 10 years ago when I realized I did not have whatever "the right stuff" is. I simply am not and never will be, and I'm completely fine with that. All I shoot for these days is to get online for a few hops, mix it up, have some fun, share a few laughs, and hopefully end up a little better than I was when I started.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by hitech
If you look at most of laz's post he normaly is just pushing back when the "strat" guys start pushing things to the extream.

HiTech

LOL HiTech please...

In my particular experience with him he lied about my stats/scoring and posted that I flew Spits exculsively when I don't even fly them ever. All because I was asking for the CAP limits to be higher.  I hardly call that "pushing back the strat guys".

Hell in this very thread he is telling a newb that his opinion doesn't matter. Is that really the impression you are trying to send???

[hitech]

Raider: Please do not confuse lazs rudeness and posting style, With the the point I was making about lazs understanding.

The 2 have nothing to do with each other.


HiTech