Originally posted by lazs2
I understood what HT said in the context he said it ltar... I didn't ever quote the examples that blasted the mega squads because the entire... get it "entire? quote was about extremes.... It was not meant to be taken as what certain people do so much as types... types of players. It does seem that you were so elated to see my name and so crushed to see mega squad mentioned that you made the dishonest quote despite knowing it was out of context and you would get caught.... toolsheeder mentality at it's best.
The quote was in no way dishonest. Since he used your name, I assumed you advocated for all the items he listed at some point. If I was mistaken, its a mistake. Mistakes are a far cry from dishonest.
Originally posted by lazs2
I may be direct but I am consistent and... I think... honest.
And I believe I have been consistent with my message that there is no right or wrong way to play -- I'll add "when not taken to an extreme," as Hitech put it, to be perfectly clear. One size does not fit all. There is more to the game than the Furball - or the Landgrab.
And here I thought you were goading, but I guess you honestly believe these quotes (order rearranged)
Originally posted by lazs2
really... a look at the K/D and K/H of those who think furballs aren't fun is allways in order.
donzo.... you get less than one kill for every time someone kills you and that...... when you have every advantage in numbers and in planes... you are lucky to get 5 kills in an hour.
Your stats are allmost a duplicate of donzos with even less success when meeting an opponent even when you have an overwhelming advantage which you and he have allways claimed is good gameplay...
So kids... look at the stats of the guys who claim mega squads and whordes and late war planes and 5-10 on one fighting is fun and that it builds skill and see that they...
your only hope to not lose your cartoon life is to hide in a whorde or mega squad and chose the fastest plane you can.. attack only when you have an advantage and be content to maybe get that one killing shot on the 5 on 1 red guy as you and the other four fire from every angle you can get and run like little girls when reversed..
So you are saying you honestly believe you can tell from K/D ratio and K/H stat that I:
#1 only fly in a horde
#2 only fly the most advantageous planes
#3 only fight when at an advantage
#4 always run when at a disadvantage
#5 If "forced" to fight, fold easily
All this while never having flown with or against me in the MA (not that I can recall, anyway).
Almost forgot #6 claim overwhelming advantage is good gameplay.
Please show me where I ever said that. The only thing I can think of that ever came close is when I said upping
against the horde could be fun.
You look at your K/D and K/H scores and know you like to fight. You look at my scores and say it is "obvious" I don't like to fight as they are poor in comparison to yours.
Apples and Oranges.
You can make some categorizations based on stats, but it not the ones you make. My stats obviously say "landgrabber" (after all, there are base captures). Yours obviously say "furballer". They say nothing to comparative "fight style." The goals are too different. As a landgrabber your goal is base capture and base defense. As a furballer your goal is to shoot down cartoon airplanes.
For sake of argument, lets say you suddenly decided to be a landgrabber.
Hey, stop laughing, I'm serious. Bear with me . . .
Your flights tend to be longer than when you were a furballer. After all, you have to make the journey all the way to the opposing base instead of half way between the closest bases. Your K/H just decreased due to increased flight time.
When you get to the base, there is field ack to contend with. You may have occasionally had that when furballing, but now you have to deal with it consistently. Occasionally it kills you. Your K/D ratio just decreased.
When it does kill you, you have that long flight again . . . K/H suffers.
As a landgrabber, part of defending your territory is to keep the other sides' strats porked. Porking raids increase time in the air. Maybe someone will up a defense against you and you can get a kill, but most likely its a just a few buildings instead. K/H suffers.
Sometimes to defend your base, you up from a field that is capped. You get vulched. Perhaps repeatedly. K/D ratio takes a hit.
To keep those pesky bombers at bay, you may actually climb to alt once in a while. That takes time. K/H suffers.
Heck, if you really don't care about your score, you may even intentionally fly your plane into the ground or bail rather than RTB. More K/D damage.
Etc. Etc.
Not to mention now that GVs are thrown in, and who can really tell what your air-to-air ratio is based on those stats?
How much would your K/D and K/H change? Not possible to quantify exactly, but it would be significant.
Now, what does all of that say about your
fighting style when you meet up with the enemy? If you are the only fighter heading to a base when most of your squad is in GVs or bombers, do you turn tail and run if there are enemy fighters up? Do you engage only if your plane is better? Have you brought an LA-7 instead of your trusty FM-2? Because you grab land now, has all your courage and skill suddenly left you?
Of course not. You fight. It's what you do. Just now it is channeled to a goal outside the fight itself.
Use any analogy you want -- individual vs team, Slapback vs Football, deathmatch vs capture the flag -- it about preferences and opinions as to which is "more fun".
If someone said your opinion was worthless because your
rank isn't good enough, and made all kinds of value judgements about how you played the game because of it, would you call them on it? How is using any portion of the score any different than that?
Wasn't too terribly long ago someone had claimed the BKs were "ruining the game." Most BKs called foul, and rightly so. All were being painted with the same broad brush by someone who had a beef with one of you. (Admittedly, I had tended to do the same broad brushing to that point - but I learned.)
You use a very broad brush when it comes to any "strat" type (individual or squad). It's just as unfair.
I don't know why I'm bothering, since I know no opinions will be changed here. But it went this far, so what the heck. "So, kiddies" . . . enough of my rant.
Happy Hunting.
