North Korea appears to have gone ahead and done it...

[LOL!!]

Once again, Kommitechik, don't pretend like you know me. Don't pretend like you know where, how and to whom I make financial contributions. As for the site, I wasn't expecting you to look. People like you are never short on certainty, in anything they say.

Calm down Neubob......your contributions are made by your daddy anyway:rofl

[Overlag]

Originally posted by -Concho-
kgb-
Hezbollah's goal is to destroy Israel, not resist occupation.


 

Hezbollah has done pretty well defending lebanon against occupation dont you think?

Hezbollah is fighting against lebanon and palestine occupation. I dunno if you relise but Israel occupies a rather large chunk of Palestine. They also regularly knock down Palestine houses (read ethnic cleansing), and put its people in jail without trial. But the rest of the world only worry about the 2 or 3 israeli troops that got taken.

[Thrawn]

I screwed up my last post.

How has NK or Iran been bullied?

How about usurping Iran's democratically elected government and reinstalling the Shah?  How about supporting Iraq's invasion of Iran?  How about giving SH WMDs that he used against Iran?

Imagine if another country did those things to US.

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Mace2004
Since 1948 over 3,200 Jews have been murdered by Arab terrorists and thousands injured.

how many lebanese did Israel kill in just 2 months this year???? and that was just 2MONTHS....

but omg 55 Yews died every year since 1948

[Mightytboy]

Originally posted by Overlag
how many lebanese did Israel kill in just 2 months this year???? and that was just 2MONTHS....

but omg 55 Yews died every year since 1948

You think it's alright  to kill Jews because Israel defends itself from people who have sworn to destroy them just because they exist?

Tell me WHY so many lebanese died from the attacks?

Was it because Israel was just killing them for the fun of it or was it that Hezzbolla(sp) was hiding behind them firing rockets so they WOULD get killed?

Sorry but your statement is one of the dumbest I've seen in some time.

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Mightytboy
You think it's alright  to kill Jews because Israel defends itself from people who have sworn to destroy them just because they exist?

Tell me WHY so many lebanese died from the attacks?

Was it because Israel was just killing them for the fun of it or was it that Hezzbolla(sp) was hiding behind them firing rockets so they WOULD get killed?

Sorry but your statement is one of the dumbest I've seen in some time.

defend itself?!?!?! Its settled inside ANOTHER country. Its occupied the rest of palestine and FILLED it with Israeli settlements. This is where most Israeli's DIE. in OCCUPIED LANDS.

[Mace2004]

Originally posted by Overlag
how many lebanese did Israel kill in just 2 months this year???? and that was just 2MONTHS....

but omg 55 Yews died every year since 1948

I didn't include all the Jews killed in the wars started by the Arab countries.  Here's a quick question for you, how much does Lebanese Hizballah care about Lebanese civilians?  Israel attacked Lebanese Hizballah who were busy launching rockets from schools, hospitals, and Mosques.  LH tried to prohibit civilians from leaving the border area also.  Why?  Don't you think it might be that they were concerned about losing their human shields and the propaganda war?  Oh, and lets not forget what's rarely mentioned by the press and never mentioned by Arabs,  the 4,000 rockets launched by LH were almost exclusively targeting Jewish civilian populations without even a pretense of attacking the Israel's army.  I also didn't talk about the Arabs killed because they attacked Israel.  The question is how much should Israel be concerned about enemy civilian casulties when they're being attacked by multiple Arab countries at the same time?  

Seems pretty clear to me, maybe the Arabs ought to stop trying to destroy the Jews and then the Jews can stop defending themselves.

[Nilsen]

The right-wing jews and hezbollah equally bad. Its just a shame that in between them lives a few million normal folks just trying to have a normal life.

[Recap]

Originally posted by Mace2004
I agree.  The Dems are a bit extreme for my taste also.  Your entire post defines the problems they have, including their ineffectiveness and failures.

"I know you are but what am I?"  I would have expected nothing less than a juvenile response.

[-Concho-]

Originally posted by -Concho-
your not getting off that easy.

start citing references.

still waiting

[Mace2004]

Originally posted by Overlag
defend itself?!?!?! Its settled inside ANOTHER country. Its occupied the rest of palestine and FILLED it with Israeli settlements. This is where most Israeli's DIE. in OCCUPIED LANDS.

Israel is not "inside" of another country.  Palestine is not and never has  existed as a country, it is a region named Palestine by the Romans when the people living there were predominantly Jews and Christians, not Arabs.  After being occupied by numerous empires the Palestine region ended up being managed by the Brits after WWI with a mandate from the League of Nations after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.  Emir Faisal, signed an agreement on the establishment of an Israeli state with the Brits in the early 1900s.  The UN agreed with the establishment of the modern state of Israel in 1948 in the region of Palestine which had no established states or governments.  

As far as "occupied" lands, this is a canard often used regarding lands outside of the UN established boundaries of Israel.  Of course, the reason the Israelies have occupied this additional land is that they defeated the attacks of numerous Arab countries and in the process took vast amounts of territory from them.  Name one other country besides Israel that has given land back after being attacked in 5 consecutive wars.  With the exception of the West Bank, Gaza and the Golan heights Israel has given all territories back to the very people that started the wars.

[Mace2004]

Originally posted by Recap
"I know you are but what am I?"  I would have expected nothing less than a juvenile response.

Why don't you just say na na nana na?  You've argued nothing but non-specifics and personnal insults.  I haven't personnaly attacked or insulted you yet you have not even attempted to explain what the Democrat proposal is or why they're entitled to call Bush a liar, nazi, racist, etc.  Why? Because the Dems don't have any ideas to explain which leaves you nothing but ad hominem attack as your only option.

[lukster]

The Democrats have a plan Mace, at least some of them do, but they know that the majority of Americans would recoil in revulsion if it were fully revealed so they have little left but to try to tear down Republicans.

[Recap]

Originally posted by Mace2004
Why don't you just say na na nana na?  You've argued nothing but non-specifics and personnal insults.  I haven't personnaly attacked or insulted you yet you have not even attempted to explain what the Democrat proposal is or why they're entitled to call Bush a liar, nazi, racist, etc.  Why? Because the Dems don't have any ideas to explain which leaves you nothing but ad hominem attack as your only option.

I'm not agruing the Democrats side, as I'm not a Democrat.  All I'm saying is your argument is filled with generalities, vulagarity and hatred.  You are so blinded by your own partisanship that you can't see the forest for the trees.  Please stop trying to paint me as being something I'm not.  Just because you believe something is so, doesn't make it true.  My whole point is that you are no better than those you preach against.  It's called hypocrisy.  Of course I don't expect you to see it, how could you? You are so caught up in your own self righteousness to understand.

[Maverick]

Why don't you guys start another Isreal vs rest of ME thread somewhere else instead of hijacking one about a situation on the other side of the globe. I'd have thought that there would be enough about korea to keep the thread alive by itself.

News this morning indicated nk says sanctions would be considered an act of war. The rhetoric seems to be ramping up inspite of China backing away from them. I wonder what's next, a blockade?