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« Reply #270 on: October 13, 2006, 07:38:06 AM »
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You mean like an independant nation called Lebanon?

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You're not really clear but I take it that your post is refering to the Israelie invasions of Lebanon.  

Just suppose we had a Mexican Hezbollah crossing the US border, kidnapping, bombing, and launching those ever-so-cute little Katusha rockets at San Diego, Yuma, El Paso, etc.  You know those little things that some sensible people would probably view as at least "un-neighborly", many believing in that little thing known as International Law might even call it an act of war.

Of course their justification is that we took the whole of the American Southwest from Mexico and therefore are actually conducting a "military occupation" of North Mexico.   Don't forget the Mexican government does nothing to stop them.  

Then, from your point of view, the US would probably be launching an "illegal war of aggression and occupation" if we were to go across the border to stop them.   Yeah.....right....you've hit the nail on the head.  It would be our fault, we would be the aggressors and "occupiers".
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« Reply #271 on: October 13, 2006, 07:55:27 AM »
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You're not really clear but I take it that your post is refering to the Israelie invasions of Lebanon.  

Just suppose we had a Mexican Hezbollah crossing the US border, kidnapping, bombing, and launching those ever-so-cute little Katusha rockets at San Diego, Yuma, El Paso, etc.  You know those little things that some sensible people would probably view as at least "un-neighborly", many believing in that little thing known as International Law might even call it an act of war.

Of course their justification is that we took the whole of the American Southwest from Mexico and therefore are actually conducting a "military occupation" of North Mexico.   Don't forget the Mexican government does nothing to stop them.  

Then, from your point of view, the US would probably be launching an "illegal war of aggression and occupation" if we were to go across the border to stop them.   Yeah.....right....you've hit the nail on the head.  It would be our fault, we would be the aggressors and "occupiers".
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« Reply #272 on: October 13, 2006, 11:23:32 AM »
Not to hijack the hijack, but now they're saying that there was no radioactive elements in the initial air sampling over NK.

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Maybe you nutjobs that were saying this was a hoax aren't so nutty afterall :)

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« Reply #273 on: October 13, 2006, 11:34:54 AM »
I wonder if it was a test failure or a hoax?  If it was a hoax, I'll have to hold my hat and hang my head.  If it was a failure (uneven implosion, for instance, w/ partial fission) then that's even better.
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« Reply #274 on: October 13, 2006, 11:49:00 AM »
Awesome, now they claim that they'll set off an H-Bomb.  That's...  unlikely.

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« Reply #275 on: October 13, 2006, 01:00:53 PM »
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Not to hijack the hijack, but now they're saying that there was no radioactive elements in the initial air sampling over NK.

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Maybe you nutjobs that were saying this was a hoax aren't so nutty afterall :)


If you know anything about how testing is done, if you do the test correctly, all of the radioactive gases remain safely below ground and you wouldn't find anything by air sampling.


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« Reply #276 on: October 13, 2006, 02:31:26 PM »
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Not to hijack the hijack, but now they're saying that there was no radioactive elements in the initial air sampling over NK.

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Maybe you nutjobs that were saying this was a hoax aren't so nutty afterall :)


the bomb "failed"

it was suppose to be 15kt but only did like 2-5kt
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« Reply #277 on: October 13, 2006, 02:46:27 PM »
`If the Bush administration makes more provocations, both New York City and Tokyo will be blazed` Kim said

wow, get ready people! ;)
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« Reply #278 on: October 13, 2006, 02:55:04 PM »
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`If the Bush administration makes more provocations, both New York City and Tokyo will be blazed` Kim said

wow, get ready people! ;)


lol how is that fool going to get them here :rofl
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« Reply #279 on: October 13, 2006, 04:22:22 PM »
air samples negative

Nuke or not nuke ,, that is the question .  

so far our Weather bird hasnt came up with any Radioactivity . nor has China and Japan .
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« Reply #280 on: October 13, 2006, 04:23:04 PM »
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« Reply #281 on: October 14, 2006, 02:15:37 AM »
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You're not really clear but I take it that your post is refering to the Israelie invasions of Lebanon.  



No i was referring to the post directly above mine...

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« Reply #282 on: October 14, 2006, 03:06:59 AM »
we have no plan for north korea, that I know.

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« Reply #283 on: October 14, 2006, 05:31:02 AM »
....Wow, where to begin...?Time to make a supposition. NK MAY have detonated a weapon. whether successful or not, It's not a very large device(IRBM, or SRBM warhead, at most.) Anywhere from 1-15Kt. Now, we don't know anything else about this device except that it possibly works. If it's not too large, It would be unwise to assume that The NK did'nt build it outside of the paramaters that would allow it to be used on one of their domestic missiles. I.E., The device may have been built so they can immediately top one of their missiles with it, therefore giving them a delivery system. If they can manage to build one in the first place, It's a sure bet they realized that they needed a weaponized bomb. And since it's small, It leads to a rash of other considerations. Is it small so that it can be sold or exported? Is it small, because it's intended to be a tactical weapon for use against SEATO forces In-Theatre?(Based on Kim's behaviour, one could assume that he believes a limited tactical usage won't be followed by a U.S. counterstrike.)Is China using this as leverage to further their position in the world(Basing this on the moves they've been making on the U.S. economy.)

     The answers to all of these questions will be given soon. If I had to make a bet, however, China will use this against us, both diplomatically and economically, to the fullest extent.

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« Reply #284 on: October 14, 2006, 05:49:26 AM »
They've detected Radiation in air samples.  N. Korea is saying that they'll detonate a thermonuclear device next.

"In Washington, a preliminary U.S. intelligence analysis has shown radioactivity in air samples collected near a suspected North Korean nuclear test site, a U.S. official said on Friday, five days after Pyongyang announced it conducted the test"

Looks like it's pretty much confirmed that the explosion was nuclear in nature, unless they've seeded the air above the test with radioactive material.  

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061014/ts_nm/korea_north_dc_99;_ylt=Akgpwg8vUgdG2qWg_XUWPi.CscEA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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