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« on: October 18, 2006, 04:43:59 PM »
Ok, so im the CO of VF-31 "Tomcatters", and id like to know how the squadrons are broken down in the Navy.   I know during WWII, Britian had like Red Flight, Blue Flight ect.....Did the US Navy have anything like this during WWII???
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2006, 04:46:50 PM »
your a chitty CO if u dont know that stuff :eek:
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2006, 04:47:47 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2006, 04:49:47 PM »
yeah yeah yeah......give me credit.  Im trying to figure it out, cant find anything on google.  Besides, ive always been an Air Force guy, kind of funny im a CO for a Naval Fighter Squadron huh?!  lol
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2006, 04:57:33 PM »
Classmate of mine is in VF-31 now - i'll see if I can get an ORG chart for ya.


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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2006, 05:02:54 PM »
Wolfala, you are my hero man!!  Thanks a million!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2006, 05:09:22 PM »
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your a chitty CO if u dont know that stuff :eek:


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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2006, 06:51:47 PM »
lol....i know cav, its all good bro!! lol  :rolleyes: :p :aok :noid
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2006, 07:02:37 PM »
I think the Navy uses "Top" Flight  and "Bottom" Flight.  :eek:

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2006, 07:59:08 PM »
especially since they went to liquid soap

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2006, 08:34:42 PM »
if their broken down they better fix em quick

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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2006, 08:48:09 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2006, 08:52:02 PM »
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I think the Navy uses "Top" Flight  and "Bottom" Flight.  :eek:


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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2006, 06:07:07 PM »
The USN/USMC divided their squadrons into "Divisions" of 4 fighters each. Two elements made up a division, typically 3 Divs per squadron, for 12.

As far as how they coded them, ie "Red", "White" ect, I think they did, but I will have to read up on it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2006, 07:29:55 PM »
I assume you're asking about flight organization vice ground but just quick the major squadron departments are Operations, Maintenance, Admin and Safety.

Navy squadrons do not have a ridged organization in flight because, unlike ground based units, we were driven by the ship's flight schedule and, to a very large degree, pilot proficiency (day/night trap requirements).  Each F-14 squadron for instance would typically launch two F-14's per cycle on day-to-day operations so you wouldn't usually have large numbers of your own squadron flying at the same time.  Our basic air organization is the Section (2 aircraft) as this is what your typically had airborne and it's the basic fighting unit.  Two Sections together make a Division but we typically did not structure the flight schedule around Divisions unless it was a major strike.  Think of a Division as being two sections working in concert with each other rather than a fixed organization with the same guys all the time.

Major aircrew squadron qualifications are Section Lead, Division Lead and Mission Commander.  The top Airwing qual is Strike Lead.  Section and Division leads are pilot quals and directly relate to coordinated flight of 2 and 4 plane groups (usually similar aircraft in the same squadron).  Mission Commanders were either pilots or RIOs and the MC's responsibility was the conduct and success of the mission itself, again, usually within a single squadron.  

Since a Division is made of two Sections it would have two Section Leads and one of these would have to be a qualified Division Lead and  responsible for maneuvering the division.  A Division would have a MC, usually the the senior MC qualified guy in the flight (either a pilot or RIO).  The MC would be responsible for mission success and be the overall man in charge.  He would be the guy to design, brief and lead the mission.

A Strike Leader is similar to a Mission Commander but would be in charge of larger missions such as an Alpha strike package using all of the assets of the Airwing.

It could have varied within different squadrons or airwings but we had no common terms to identify specific sections and divisions, i.e., we didn't have set callsigns for these such as Red Flight, however, these types of names could be assigned for comm brevity on larger strikes or per the ATO (Air Tasking Order).  The mud movers could be called "Hammer", the EA-6B "Zap" and the fighters "Sting" for instance but this was never set at the squadron level.

That help?
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