Personal Views of the Changes

[Warchief]

Yes I know many have posted on this matter. Me I am going to do this by my personal views and hope for adult response.

The current setup presents many problems but also presents many benefits. Many do not like the arean split and I am one of them. But I do see the advantage of it. Things have worked out the best and worst for all of us.

Early War Arena has become Furballers paradise.

Mid War Arena appears to be the toolshedders and milkrunners haven.

Late War Arena is where most come to becuase it offers both.

The problem with the changes has been is negetive impact on Squads which is one of the conerstones of the AH community. Squads have given a lot to the community. The ones who appear to be complaining about mega squads are ones who may never have been in one. Myself I am one or used to be the 31st FG. I have been playing since AH1 and never had a problem with a "mega" squad before. Most "mega squads" seem to be a collection of a large group of people who have the same goals but different ways of doing it. You have your bomber, furballers, gv, and attack guys and many squads are broken down to reflect that while others are guys who love to fly together but due to where they live or when they are able to play differs so they broke there squad into multiple wings to accomodate that. If you wish to complain about mega squads then please do so in a manner that does not say I hate mega squads because of jealous or personal views. Mega squads are at times the mainstays of the AH coomunity and teach people how to do things thus allowing noobs to learn the tricks of the trade and be a value to the AH community. Squads themselves have been in the past the ones who maintained base defense and offensives.

Eny restrictions have been kicking the crap out of all of us. Restricting what you can fly. No big deal at first but in the LW arena many times people have been stuck flying what are aircraft from EWA against LA7, Spit 16, P51D and many late war aircraft. This is not balancing anything out. IF you are in LWA ENY should be adjusted to allow some sense of capability to defend yourself. Should there be an ENY? Yes, but as it stands right now due to current arean setups individuals are abusing it. Some will log in but once there side starts losing they leave the Arena and go to other and this is why their is such a big difference in country sizes in the different arenas. To me people log off because they are losing and sit and wait for people to leave because of ENY then come back so they cant prevent a lose. I am a Bish and for as long as I can remember Bish have been the ones who normally are the ones playing Defense all the time. Before the split we were outnumbered and yes many complained about it. So ENY was brought in to help it out. It worked but I do not remember prior to the split where the only aircraft I had to choice from was a early war aircraft to face late war aircraft,

Ways to solve the problems. You want things to change then present some basic answer with a solution that would help the AH community not overblown or out of reach answers. HiTech and Pyro have stated the MA is gone and not coming back. So why waste time asking for it back? Here are some of my answer with questions to HiTech in a way.

1)I have noticed an increase in lag where my bullets either do no effect on the person I am shooting at or the bullets go right through them. This seems to be happening more and more since the split of the arenas. I have seen warps go through the roof. So the answer is to this HiTech are you guys operating off just the previous servers and if so are there plans to add more individual servers so the ones that you have now are not handling all the arenas at once and in my view this may be the cause for increase lag. Maybe even geting rid of the other arenas. Dropping the Special Event and Axis vrs Allies is 2 areans I would consider dropping. Well the Special Events should be brought back online when a Special Event is about to take place.

2) I have seen lately aircraft not matching there top speeds during certain times. Last night I had a 262 slow down by 50-100 mph while engaging bombers and shoot down. Had a squaddie who used his ratos to try and escape from a diving 51 but when he fired them his aircraft slowed down. Last night had a squaddie whos B-26 who not match previous Manifold pressure or speed. Yes he relogged and recalibrated his joystick. I take his word for because there is no way a Hurricane Mk IIC should one catch and two outrun a B26 in level flight. Anyone have an idea as why this is happening?

3) Why is the late War Arena split into two seperate arenas? If someone wants a different map then they can go to EW or MW. Instead of having two areans with a cap of 220 or less why not combine them so you have an arena of 400+. This would solve some of the ENY problems as well as give the EW or MW arena an influx of people who may log into LW and see they are about to lose the map and dont want to fly there a place to go.

4) Forgot one so had to edit this in. Collisions!!! Yes they should be on but like many things people using for its unintended purpose. If A collsions happens then both aircraft should both die and the one who caused the collision should then be restricted from upping an aircraft for a time period maybe 5 minutes. They could still up GV but not aircraft. Now some may say that wont work with bombers. Well when they land it comes into effect.

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[hitech]

1) Should not have changed at all, and the split arenas would not impact it in any way.
Also special events , AvA and training ,dueling all run on a sperate server.

2) There is absoulty no way the arena change could efect what you are percieving.

3) Please do a search on all my post to answere your why the split question.

HiTech

[Hap]

Originally posted by Warchief
[BEny restrictions have been kicking the crap out of all of us. Restricting what you can fly. No big deal at first but in the LW arena many times people have been stuck flying what are aircraft from EWA against LA7, Spit 16, P51D and many late war aircraft. This is not balancing anything out.  [/B]

Of course it balances Warchief.  When Eny limited your countries planes, it did so in response to your country's superior numbers.

Regards,

hap

[Shuffler]

Easy fix... we fly on low number teams no eny and also easy to find fights

[Warchief]

HiTech I am not saying the problems are due to the split of the Arenas in some areas. ALl I was saying was there has been an increase in a few areas since the split. Thank you for the answering part of the question on the servers.

I know the answers for the arena split and I do not recall calling that into question. I know the reasons and I accept why it has happened. That point has been argued over and over again. The changes were made time to live with them. Just stating my views on a wide ragne of questions and areas that have risen since the arenas were split.

Hap I have no problems with why ENY is in effect but ask that an adjustment is needed. When you outnumber so one and ENY is above 20 you are limited to upping Spit 5 or very few other aircraft are in no way going to match a late War aircraft. What I think should happene is a few of mid war aircraft should have there ENY lowered so when ENY kicks in then it would be MW vrs LW not EW vrs LW. With ENY the way it is one area it does excell in is limiting the ability of perk aircraft to lift off. That area it is working in. But also people when they are losing will log off or switch arenas to stop the reset thus abusing the ENY and then when numbers are the WAY THEY LIKE IT the come back.

One area I did not include was maps. For those asking multiple times about this. Well maps take time to make. Give it time for those to be produced and be trimmed out and reviewed.

[Stang]

Originally posted by Warchief
HiTech I am not saying the problems are due to the split of the Arenas in some areas. ALl I was saying was there has been an increase in a few areas since the split. Thank you for the answering part of the question on the servers.

I know the answers for the arena split and I do not recall calling that into question. I know the reasons and I accept why it has happened. That point has been argued over and over again. The changes were made time to live with them. Just stating my views on a wide ragne of questions and areas that have risen since the arenas were split.

Hap I have no problems with why ENY is in effect but ask that an adjustment is needed. When you outnumber so one and ENY is above 20 you are limited to upping Spit 5 or very few other aircraft are in no way going to match a late War aircraft. What I think should happene is a few of mid war aircraft should have there ENY lowered so when ENY kicks in then it would be MW vrs LW not EW vrs LW. With ENY the way it is one area it does excell in is limiting the ability of perk aircraft to lift off. That area it is working in. But also people when they are losing will log off or switch arenas to stop the reset thus abusing the ENY and then when numbers are the WAY THEY LIKE IT the come back.

One area I did not include was maps. For those asking multiple times about this. Well maps take time to make. Give it time for those to be produced and be trimmed out and reviewed.

So when you have a huge advantage in numbers you should be barely penalized in what your plane choices are?  ENY kicks in more as the % of numbers advantage a side has increases.  So the more advantage the number, the higher the ENY.  That makes sense to me, and does balance things.  Not perfectly, but it does acheive some balance.  

If you chose to fly with the numbers, you must accept flying a lesser airplane.  If anything ENY is not harsh enough.

[ghi]

Originally posted by Warchief
Yes I know many have posted on this matter. Me I am going to do this by my personal views and hope for adult response.

The current setup presents many problems but also presents many benefits. Many do not like the arean split and I am one of them. But I do see the advantage of it. Things have worked out the best and worst for all of us.

Early War Arena has become Furballers paradise.

Mid War Arena appears to be the toolshedders and milkrunners haven.

Late War Arena is where most come to becuase it offers both.

The problem with the changes has been is negetive impact on Squads which is one of the conerstones of the AH community. Squads have given a lot to the community. The ones who appear to be complaining about mega squads are ones who may never have been in one. Myself I am one or used to be the 31st FG. I have been playing since AH1 and never had a problem with a "mega" squad before. Most "mega squads" seem to be a collection of a large group of people who have the same goals but different ways of doing it. You have your bomber, furballers, gv, and attack guys and many squads are broken down to reflect that while others are guys who love to fly together but due to where they live or when they are able to play differs so they broke there squad into multiple wings to accomodate that. If you wish to complain about mega squads then please do so in a manner that does not say I hate mega squads because of jealous or personal views. Mega squads are at times the mainstays of the AH coomunity and teach people how to do things thus allowing noobs to learn the tricks of the trade and be a value to the AH community. Squads themselves have been in the past the ones who maintained base defense and offensives.

Eny restrictions have been kicking the crap out of all of us. Restricting what you can fly. No big deal at first but in the LW arena many times people have been stuck flying what are aircraft from EWA against LA7, Spit 16, P51D and many late war aircraft. This is not balancing anything out. IF you are in LWA ENY should be adjusted to allow some sense of capability to defend yourself. Should there be an ENY? Yes, but as it stands right now due to current arean setups individuals are abusing it. Some will log in but once there side starts losing they leave the Arena and go to other and this is why their is such a big difference in country sizes in the different arenas. To me people log off because they are losing and sit and wait for people to leave because of ENY then come back so they cant prevent a lose. I am a Bish and for as long as I can remember Bish have been the ones who normally are the ones playing Defense all the time. Before the split we were outnumbered and yes many complained about it. So ENY was brought in to help it out. It worked but I do not remember prior to the split where the only aircraft I had to choice from was a early war aircraft to face late war aircraft,

Ways to solve the problems. You want things to change then present some basic answer with a solution that would help the AH community not overblown or out of reach answers. HiTech and Pyro have stated the MA is gone and not coming back. So why waste time asking for it back? Here are some of my answer with questions to HiTech in a way.

1)I have noticed an increase in lag where my bullets either do no effect on the person I am shooting at or the bullets go right through them. This seems to be happening more and more since the split of the arenas. I have seen warps go through the roof. So the answer is to this HiTech are you guys operating off just the previous servers and if so are there plans to add more individual servers so the ones that you have now are not handling all the arenas at once and in my view this may be the cause for increase lag. Maybe even geting rid of the other arenas. Dropping the Special Event and Axis vrs Allies is 2 areans I would consider dropping. Well the Special Events should be brought back online when a Special Event is about to take place.

2) I have seen lately aircraft not matching there top speeds during certain times. Last night I had a 262 slow down by 50-100 mph while engaging bombers and shoot down. Had a squaddie who used his ratos to try and escape from a diving 51 but when he fired them his aircraft slowed down. Last night had a squaddie whos B-26 who not match previous Manifold pressure or speed. Yes he relogged and recalibrated his joystick. I take his word for because there is no way a Hurricane Mk IIC should one catch and two outrun a B26 in level flight. Anyone have an idea as why this is happening?

3) Why is the late War Arena split into two seperate arenas? If someone wants a different map then they can go to EW or MW. Instead of having two areans with a cap of 220 or less why not combine them so you have an arena of 400+. This would solve some of the ENY problems as well as give the EW or MW arena an influx of people who may log into LW and see they are about to lose the map and dont want to fly there a place to go.

4) Forgot one so had to edit this in. Collisions!!! Yes they should be on but like many things people using for its unintended purpose. If A collsions happens then both aircraft should both die and the one who caused the collision should then be restricted from upping an aircraft for a time period maybe 5 minutes. They could still up GV but not aircraft. Now some may say that wont work with bombers. Well when they land it comes into effect.

 The game is  soo  poor in EW models, imop EW arena is a joke, it shouldn't exist

[Warchief]

So Stang what you are saying is fighting Spit 1 or Spit 5 vrs Spit 16 is a fair fight. M

[storch]

wow,  I agree that there are gaping holes in the lineup but some of us really enjoy that arena.  thanks for wanting to shut it down because it fails to meet all of your criteria for what a worth arena should be.

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Warchief
So Stang what you are saying is fighting Spit 1 or Spit 5 vrs Spit 16 is a fair fight.  

No he's saying 5 spit5's vs a spit16 is a fair fight. Of coarse with Stang, you better make it 10.

[Warchief]

What I am saying is the ENY needs to be adjusted as to allow MWA aircraft the proper ENY to face LWA. By the way I have seen where the rooks have not be hit with ENY when they outnumbered everyone by 20-30 and on top of that a few days ago Bish outnumbered rooks by 40 and knits outnumbered the rooks by 20-25 but yet the knits didnt get hit with ENY when by the way it is suppose to work both should have been hit with the ENY.

[hubsonfire]

It works for everyone exactly the same, exactly the way it's supposed to. It's just a couple of lines of code, not some malicious entity just waiting for an opportunity to screw you over.

[Warchief]

Originally posted by storch
wow,  I agree that there are gaping holes in the lineup but some of us really enjoy that arena.  thanks for wanting to shut it down because it fails to meet all of your criteria for what a worth arena should be.

Me I dont think EW should be shut down. It has its purpose. What I would like to see is around a 400-500 cap on LW and if people want to leave because of losing that Arean it might influx the number of people in the EW or MW arenas

[Kev367th]

Think the point he was trying to make -

1) If one side is getting hammered in say LW2, some do log off and goto LW1.
2) Imbalance in numbers therefore occurs in both arenas.
3) If a guy logs in and sees the same thing he goes to other LW arena, result even more imbalance.
4) Because of the caps its nigh on impossible to get people into arenas to try and balance the numbers.

This is something HT hasn't addressed or commented on, he just skips over it.

Dunno if would be possible to allow someone to log into an arena that is capped as long as it is not on the highest numbered side.

Give a choice -
a) Arena is full goto other arena
b) Arena is full but you can join one of

• sides as they have the lowest numbers.

c) If your already on of of the lower numbered countries you get straight in.

Would allow poeple to switch between LW1 and 2 probably without even havin to change countries ( usually diff countries have the numbers in each LW arenas) even with caps on.