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« on: October 27, 2006, 10:37:00 PM »





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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2006, 11:04:19 PM »
JS-2 and King Tiger would be the 2 more formidable tanks on the list.  it would basically come down to who could land the hits first

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2006, 11:10:38 PM »
I doubt we will ever see those tanks in AH ever :(
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2006, 10:35:41 AM »
I'd go for the IS2, turret could move a lot faster, park that thing at an angle and traverse the turret round, good night tiger.

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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2006, 12:55:25 PM »
Germans, better optics!

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2006, 03:28:35 AM »
Id have to go with the Panther. I love the king Tiger but it was slow. The panther was to happy med, of all the ones you have, Sloped armor that could bounce even an 88mm, Fast and varry manuverable, with great opticks and a fast reload as well as good view for spoting enmy.
 I just finished the book "Tigers In the Mud". its fallows the career of one of the tiger aces Otto Carius and gives varry telling accounts of the Tigers abilitys. It also has some good stats for Tiger. Try this,, the turit of the tiger at its slowest turn would take 60 min, at its fastest it took 60 sec. to do a full 360 deg, turn. Yhis ment it was varry eassy for the gunner to turn on to a target and not even have to use the hand cranks to ajust if he was good.
 If you are in to Armor Id highly reccomend this book.

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 01:16:27 PM »
If i'm a tactician, i'd place the IS-3 behind for protection, use the IS-2s as battering rams and T-34-85s as the spearhead for attack.

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2006, 03:21:16 PM »
King Tiger would win a "duel" vs anything short of the JS-3, which in fairness, barely made it into the closing weeks of WW2.

88mm L71 gun fired with a higher rate than the 122mm, optics are more accurate, it would score hits 1st at range and kill quicker than the others, as well as have the protection to stand and shoot. Its gun would kill any of the ones in the contest, even a Panther.

While the IS-2 was still trying to range, it would be hit. The 122mm gun had a very slow rate of fire, and was actually not as accurate as an 88L71.

....and its turret was not slower.

We are talking slugfest, yes?, not manuever, I would pick Panthers for my army, but King Tiger for a slugfest, assuming you started at say, 3000 meters or so.

The King Tiger was an expensive, complicated tank, and it was not for fast armored exploitation...but in a standing gun duel, it was a freaking monster.

...The JS-3 would win (if it were included) simply because its armor is too good frontally, even for a long  88mm gun, it would probably survive long enough to land hits on a King Tiger, and kill it around 1000 meters or so, after being hit numerous times 1st.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2006, 03:50:46 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2006, 04:52:07 PM »
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The King Tiger was an expensive, complicated tank, and it was not for fast armored exploitation...but in a standing gun duel, it was a freaking monster.


I heard it was 4x expensive as the Me 109s that time.

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2006, 05:11:04 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2006, 05:11:39 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2006, 07:32:20 PM »
German technology all the way...why you ask...cuz while all the russian junk was sitting around waiting for the daylight to break the German armor would be rolling about in the dark. Notice on the Panther the little red disk? I beleive that is the german IR night vision they had under development. w00t.:t
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2006, 10:08:19 PM »
King Tiger. Its German. 'nuff said.

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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2006, 11:07:45 PM »
Tank experts...

Which tank has the fastest turret turn-rate?

Stalin series tanks (JS-2/3)

or

Tiger series (tiger and king tiger)

?