New arena idea..

[FrodeMk3]

I wish they would, Moil. It's the major failing of the community, no matter how you like to play the game.

[thndregg]

Originally posted by FrodeMk3
lasz, I think in this case, we have to blame the vets as much as the newbs, due to the way that we treat the newbs.

You know why?

It's because of the treatment that a lot of "old vets" give the new accounts guys.

I wish that I had filmed it at the time, but I can give you an example of the treatment that is given to new players:

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234552:"how do i fly the plane"

anyone that's been flying for a while:"STFU dweeb, use the README or go to the (nits/rooks/bish)"

234552:"could somebody help me"

any older "vet", again:"LMAO newb, please log. Come back when you have a real name."

 

I apologize for re-opening the stale can-of-worms, BUT:

Because of this example of intolerance for newbies, how do you think the larger squads got to be so sizeable? I bet you anything that almost everyone that stumbled across our squad channel while learning this game found us to be courteous, fun, respectful, and patient, so long as those qualities were returned in kind.

[FrodeMk3]

CC, Egg. I guess I should have added that we all were number guys, once. And we should treat them as if it were ourselves, being talked to that way.

[Overlag]

lazs the point of the changes was to make it easier for new players to FIND people that will teach them how to play the game properly..... thats going to take a few months to work its way up

a RR server will just make it worse and more gamey.

[storch]

no doubt egg, that way your vets in the bops can fly around in an insular cloud of noobiewoobiecanes.  

the minute someone engages these mulitple contacts I'm sure over vox they hear the famous mighty mouse mantra "HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY" and your hero swoops in to save all 6 of your noobiewoobiecaners from the lone intrepid attacker.

we've seen it happen many times.  spare me the idealistic spin on your philosophy of AH play, you guys simply like hordes.

having just typed that though you are within every right to have a 90+ member squad and anyone paying their US$14.95 is entitled to play any way they choose.

[Laurie]

frode has a good piont.

im no vet, ive only played the game 10 months, but wen i joined i was well embraced (lucky,) i was picked up by a nice, friendly squad ( 367th dynamite gang) and my gameplay has come leaps and bounds thanks to their help and support. I'm now a regualr player of the game and help out new guys as much as i can.

perhaps TA needs to be advertised a bit better tho, nd maybe a simpler format in there rather than the complicated stuff that bogs you down,

maybe the new game will help training tho, im not sure.

Also wooh lynx, good piont. i really enjoy the LW and always play there, fine think im a horder, or w/e, but i pay my 15$ to play how i want,, nd dont really care if im a horder in some guy sittting behind a PC fighting the dust in MW or EW opinion, every1 pays their 15$ to do what they want... so let them.

also maybe poll's should be intorduced to see what everyone really thinks about how AH is atm and were it should go, and about upcoming possible changes, like the new arena format wich came out of nowhere anyway,

regards.

[lazs2]

jhookit.. the intent of my post should have been laid out in my first post.

Now, that I have answered your question...  Can I ask?   What was the intent of your post?  

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[mustard]

mr. ripley has a valid point. however the AI arena should be a paying arena. HT would lose out on alot of cash with a more challenging arena.

[Max]

Originally posted by lazs2

How bout a "Relaxed realism" arena?  No stalls/spins that sort of thing... maybe easier gunnery... outside views..

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Pretty sure this idea was pitched a year or so ago. Also pretty sure that HT was thumbs down on any RR arenas.

While it does have some appeal for the noobie point-n-shoot player types, it won't ever provide them the means of conquering the curve.

[lazs2]

max... I agree that for most it will not give them a stepping stone... only a small percent will leave once there.. Most people are sheep.. they won't leave this squad or that or this chess piece or that but...

Not all... some will move up.   they will be worth having.    As it is now... the ones who would have stayed.. the sheep... go to the real arenas and do the sheep thing in them.  same RR behavior except now we all have to see it.

RR would allow the sheep to mill around together and stay in their own pen and any who left would be worth having.  instead of like now... we get em all... huge clumps of em.

The reason RR didn't work before was that it siphoned off a lot of players (most are sheep remember).   This was bad when two or three sims were going strong and competing meaning....  there were only a couple hundred or less on at one time in any sim... lose too many to RR and... no sim.  

Now we have 600 on at a time in prime..  RR would attract even more...  so... say you had 1000 on in prime and 400 were RR.... that would mean that both RR and FR would be improved... with people who liked their place.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[Shamus]

All of the arenas are RR now, anyone remember pre-1.04?

shamus

[Tilt]

RR is viable............... folk will go play there when they want more arcadia.

(RR had nothing to do with the demise of AW)


It does split the community however. I doubt that this is what HT is after.

Some may argue the community is already split however there is a difference between differing player preferances and differing gameplay environments and arenas.

You can read elsewhere how moving from RR to FR was considered a serious step in player development.............. with no RR this does not exist.

To some extent the two can mix together.. min AOA is settable within the main arenas if a player so chooses.

I think the key point is that there is no need for an RR arena. Such an arena simply "lowers the bar" below a level that works very well now.

[gatt]

Originally posted by Shamus
All of the arenas are RR now, anyone remember pre-1.04?

shamus

Uhm, IIRC, pre-1.04 energy management meant something.

[lazs2]

yes.. I recall that.. was that way for a week or so when I got here....  all the flight models were wrong in that all the planes turned at pretty much the same rate.

"energy management" was to allways be higher and to never slow down..  if a plane was low then everyone dove down... took a sissy little kick at him and ran like hell before some other "energy manager" dove on them...  

And why not?  the guy couldn't use any acm to turn even if he was in a zeke.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[straffo]

/agree with Lazs2