Kerry "Your educated and smart or your in Iraq"

[midnight Target]

Darn glad he apologized.. I don't think anyone should vote for Kerry for President this year!

[lukster]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Darn glad he apologized.. I don't think anyone should vote for Kerry for President this year!

He didn't admit that he was sorry for disparaging our troops, only for botching a joke. Apology not accepted.

[midnight Target]

Then don't vote for him... he deserves it, the bastage!

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Then don't vote for him... he deserves it, the bastage!

Kerry has had a great career of helping the GOP. Kerry's loss in '04 already ensured our Supreme Court was properly appointed, along with help from our Prez. and GOP congress.

so...

Thanks Johnnie !!

[midnight Target]

OK, one try at common sense....

Don't you guys feel any kind of chagrin about affixing the stupidity of Kerry's statement to the entire Democratic party, while attacking those who do the same to the Republicans when it comes to e-mails to pages or funding scandals or lousey intelligence etc?

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[lukster]

Originally posted by midnight Target
OK, one try at common sense....

Don't you guys feel any kind of chagrin about affixing the stupidity of Kerry's statement to the entire Democratic party, while attacking those who do the same to the Republicans when it comes to e-mails to pages or funding scandals or lousey intelligence etc?

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I have respect for those democrats calling for Kerry's resignation. Uh, who were they again?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by midnight Target
OK, one try at common sense....

Don't you guys feel any kind of chagrin about affixing the stupidity of Kerry's statement to the entire Democratic party, while attacking those who do the same to the Republicans when it comes to e-mails to pages or funding scandals or lousey intelligence etc?

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Who affixed ANY of Kerry's stupidity to the Democratic party? Other than the Democrats did select him to run for President in 2004.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Vudak
Another point of contention - the 99.9 percent of enlisted men who have at least a high school diploma surely counts those who have a GED.  And anyone who's taken that test can tell you it's NOT the same thing.

Of course, I think I remember hearing that they were phasing out accepting GED kids and going full high school diploma, but I don't know what came of it, and I heard that fairly recently, so all enlisted men having a bona-fide h.s. diploma is certainly not the case now.

It really doesn't matter though...  The military's as good a school as any college...  It just concentrates on different things.  Still useful, no doubt.

Geesh I missed a whole page at work today.

That 99.9 % DOES NOT include GED applicants.  The millitary only accepts a few of those, and ONLY if they have some college credits under their belt.

RPM,

I get about 3 out of 50 recruits that come from "money".  Alot of officers come from "money" as well.

[bj229r]

As if you didn't have enough reasons to hate Kerry:

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200611/POL20061101d.html

Sen. John Kerry, whose "botched joke" on education and the war in Iraq has sparked a national controversy, approached the families of fallen soldiers at their sons' funerals to seek their help in undermining the war on terror during his 2004 presidential campaign, according to the authors of a new book.

A woman - who had also lost her son in the war and who represented the local Kerry campaign - approached the Johnsons at their son's wake," Moy said. "Justin was laid out in his Army uniform as the woman began her speech about hating Bush and helping Kerry.

"She asked the Johnsons to speak out against President Bush," the author said. The family turned down the request.

Morgan said that while doing research for their book, she and Moy discovered that Kerry and liberal activist Michael Moore personally recruited family members within days of their son's deaths - and sometimes even at the funerals - to come and work for the campaign in order to undermine Bush.

"It was shocking and really offensive behavior, and that's exactly what happened to Cindy Sheehan, who we tracked down," Morgan said. "She went on the payroll of John Kerry's campaign within days after her son's death, as well as her daughter, Carly."

[moot]

Infighting's the best means of resolving issues, and moving forward.. well done blindly partisan turds.

[VOR]

Originally posted by moot
Infighting's the best means of resolving issues, and moving forward.. well done blindly partisan turds.

Kerry's well-known for being a jerk, so I'm kinda with you on this one. When a jerk says something jerky why is it even newsworthy, and why waste 3 pages of BBS bandwidth arguing about the finer points of his real message?  

Guy's a jerk, get over it and get on with your lives!

[moot]

By turds I don't mean anyone specifically, here.  I mean the masses of sheep that feed and give weight to counterproductivity.

Sometimes I'm working on a project, and at any point, team members will go right out of their way to fight for some useless ephemera AKA "the last word", as opposed to getting out of their own way to figure out what's TRUE and get things DONE.
It's at that point that the bigger picture is forgotten for whatever pet peeve itch they need to scratch.

Similarly, the threads or replies (which can't not reflect some of the poster's real life tendencies) that just pile on and on about "revenge", e.g. why catching some Al Qaida ******* or mindless child molester, and devoting time to torturing him/her is a great and productive idea..
Like you said, SOLVE the problem, and move on.

[lukster]

Originally posted by moot
Infighting's the best means of resolving issues, and moving forward.. well done blindly partisan turds.

One question. Did you vote for Kerry?

[moot]

No, I don't think I could.. he's a lying bastard and doesn't even warrant wasting breath arguing about.
I spend a lot of time reading and writing here, because at some point in the near future I'm moving back to the US, naturalizing when I can, and getting involved locally in politics..  Politics are a dirty business as far as I can tell, worse than a bad soap opera.  But it needs to be done, and I've seen enough inspiring people such as Lazs, Skuzzy, Hangtime, and a number of people in various places in real life, to convince me it's not a lost cause yet.

I do want to do the issue justice, not just by principle, because I have interest only in a job well done, but particularly because I (for some reason I can't really explain, stupidly) feel responsible for it through being conscious of my ability to do something about it, and therefore partial responsibility for its final outcome.  Sort of like seeing someone unconscious on the side of the road.. How do you justify stopping, or not?
I don't have any illusions about the earth being, as far as I can tell - and justify with a proper reason for thinking so, just a mass of animals fighting for survival, but still I think that since I am stuck in it, it might as well get my attention.. and I assume it's the same for everyone else.

SO that's my shorthand context to the decision of voting for whom, for the position of head honcho to this whole affair.. I'm not voting for some crook.

Unfortunately, and I'm not dodging the issue, as I've tried to explain without waxing on too long, I'm pretty sure I haven't learned enough on the subject to make a responsible decision.. so.. I honestly don't know who or what should get my vote.
At the moment I'm stuffing my head almost 24/7 with my formal studies, so this is high on the to-do list, but not for just now just yet.

Libertarians seem to be the closest to what I would vote for, but that's just a guess, and I'm pretty sure who I vote for, presidentialy, isn't really the most crucial, effective choice I have to make.
Like I said already, I'm not voting for some crook.

[lukster]

Originally posted by moot
Lukster, you mind if I PM you?

No, I don't mind.