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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #120 on: November 07, 2006, 08:55:30 AM »
storch... I am very glad that the good people of boston didn't feel as you do a few hundred years ago about how they were obligated to pay taxes no matter how unfair.

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« Reply #121 on: November 07, 2006, 09:26:31 AM »
if you feel that way about it lazs, then do what they did.  that's what I would do if I held your opinion.  keep in mind that the American colonies were being taxed but without representation in parliment.  that would be grounds for civil disobedience in my opinion but that isn't the case with us today.
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« Reply #122 on: November 07, 2006, 10:08:49 AM »
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« Reply #123 on: November 07, 2006, 05:46:32 PM »
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Originally posted by storch
it's under 50%  but let's say it's 50% for argument's sake.  what is the tax rate in other industrialized nations?  during the johnson administration the tax rate was approaching 80% in some brackets.

now if you ask me would I like to pay less taxes then the answer is yes of course I would.  would I refuse to pay the taxes I'm legal required to pay?  never.  why?  because it is my obligation as a beneficiary of this great republic to shoulder my share of the load.  

my position on this topic is not predicated upon whether or not I'm awarded government contracts.  the work the government subs out will have to be performed by someone.  I'm qualified by training, experience, business acumen and financial ability to bid on and win some of these contracts in a competetive bidding environment.  I see it as another way for me to provide my country a useful service and the government is still getting back from me what I was initially trained to do as a petty officer in the United States Navy.


If you are willing to take the time and do the research I think you will find that it is 50% or so very close to that it's not worth arguing over.

I'm not talking JUST INCOME TAX either.  I'm talking ALL the taxes that are added on to products we all purchase nearly on a daily bases.

Add em all together and our tax bill gets WAY up there.

As to legally obliged to pay, did you miss the point that our so called income tax was supposed to be voluntary?  That we the people were supposed to be able to withdraw from paying those taxes any time we wished?

What most complain about isn't so much the taxes, it's the way our gubmint is going about gettin those taxes, and what we see as wasteful spending of those tax dollars.

We watch as our gubmint keeps getting bigger and bigger and seems to want more and more..................
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