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Offline Kermit de frog

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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2006, 12:12:31 PM »
Some of the best stories I've ever heard, have come from WWII Veterans, on both sides of the war.  Keep on posted your stories of experiences with WWII Vets.

Sorry to hear about your recent loss Schatzi.  

Some good questions have been stated in this thread.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2006, 12:49:39 PM »
Better get Widewing in here.  I'm sure he'd put the rest of us to shame with the amount of stories he's heard.

Come one Widewing.  Share the wealth :)
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2006, 01:59:00 PM »
What a story Dan, Fantastic!
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2006, 02:07:08 PM »
My video with some Flying Tigers


Shorter gentleman is my neighbors father and by whom I was invited.

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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2006, 02:22:42 PM »
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My video with some Flying Tigers


Shorter gentleman is my neighbors father and by whom I was invited.


it won't play for me Golfer...  Oh, and BTW when did you leave last night during squad night you donkeystick? LOL
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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2006, 02:46:42 PM »
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Better get Widewing in here.  I'm sure he'd put the rest of us to shame with the amount of stories he's heard.

Come one Widewing.  Share the wealth :)


Yeah, I think Widewing knows everyone I know and then some. He may not have known Bill Capron and Bill Safarik. I think he may have known Ken Lloyd.
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2006, 03:14:39 PM »
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I've had a chance to talk to lots of vets over the years and collect their stories.  Probably the proudest moment I've ever had outside of my family is this picture taken at the first reunion of 41 Squadron at RAF Coltishall in 1986.  I'd researched the Spit XII for about 6 years to that point and tracked down all the pilots I could find, which lead to helping with the reunion and then getting to fly to England to take part.

I was the only non WW2 Spit pilot in the group photo that was taken in front of the B of B flight Spit II that was in 41 Squadron colors.  The pilots asked that I be included.  Talk about proud and humbled.  They also got me in the cockpit of that Spit which wasn't normally allowed.  Sadly many of these guys are now gone.

I'll never forget sitting with them in the Coltishall OC with a pint in my hand listening to them talk and how they seemed to step back in time as they told their stories.  Being allowed to see that was an incredible privilage.  Even more humbling was when they'd ask me if they had the story right.  I'd been living it daily through their letters and I was able to fill in the details they'd missed.

Again, outside of family this was probably the best thing I've ever experienced.  Getting allowed into that circle and being considered part of them, if even for a couple days was really something.  I still have my 41 Squadron tie, that only 41 Squadron members are allowed to have :)


Which one is you ? ... j/k ... you stick out like a sore thumb amongst those gents and pilots of yester-year.

Musta been un-real to spend that amount of quality time with those guys and sharin' pints with them.
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2006, 04:43:46 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2006, 08:16:52 PM »
Not a fighter pilot story, but.........I was in Burger King a couple of months ago and saw a big Lincoln outside with an 8th Airforce tag on it.  I looked around and saw an older gentleman sitting nearby.  I asked if it was his car and he said yes, then I asked about the tag.  He said he flew B-17s in Europe during WW2.   "The old gals always brought me home"

I didn't ask him any more questions.  I extended my hand, gave him a firm handshake and said even though that was way before my time, I would like to thank you for your service to this country and for protecting my freedom.

The smile that appeared on his face was worth far more than any information I could have learned about his aircraft.

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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2006, 09:15:55 PM »
One of the many reasons I wish my Grandfather had lived longer (he passed away of a heart attack when I was still a toddler, I barely remember him) was that he was a groundcrewman with the 4th Fighter Group during the war. Looking into his service and reading his old (original printings) of Mr. Tettleys Tenants and 1,000 Destroyed were what really got me interested in WWII aviation. I'd always thought those old planes were cool, but learning about my connection to them got me hooked.

He originally enlisted in 1942, straight out of High School (turned down a college basketball scolarship according to my relatives who remember that far back) and into the USAAF. Wanted to be a gunner on a B-17, but they took one look at him (at 6'5" and 170 pounds!) and told him he was too tall to fly and sent him to supply. Ended up at Debden until 1946, where he met my grandmother (who grew up in Cambridge) and convinced her that the weather was much nicer in New York and she should come home with him. :)

My great uncle (grandmothers younger brother, retired Sgt. Maj. in the British Army) remembers when he first met him in about 1943- says he was the tallest and skinniest man he had ever met, and that he already had a full head of grey hair. Also said he was one of the nicest people he ever knew in his life, and that he still mourns him to this day.

My grandmother doesn't talk about the war or my grandfather much (basically only when shes been drinking, and then she gets very depressed), but I've managed to worm out of her that she and her family were very nearly killed twice during the Battle of Britain (an incendiary landed in her backyard in July, missing the house by feet, and the family drove through a Stuka attack on the coast in August. She still can't stand the sound of Stuka sirens when they're on TV.), that she to this day hates Germans (she cried when the Berlin Wall came down, but not for the good reasons), and a few times she's talked about the pilots she remembers from the war. She met several of the pilots of the 4th over the years dating my grandfather (and growing up in the nearest large town to the base) and she remembers Don Blakeslee as a "handsome, arrogant devil" (meant in a good way), Gentile as a "cocky young sod" and Kid Hofer as "as reckless as they came". But she still says none of them could compare to the RAF fighter pilots, of course. But whenever she gets angry or upset at something going on in America, she remembers all the young men who went to England to help them, and she feels better about being here. Sounds sappy, but shes said it many times over the years.

To be honest, I don't know what I'd ask a pilot if I had the chance to sit down and talk to one. Theres so much that they went through that needs to be remembered that I wouldn't know where to start.

But I know I'd love to talk to, in no particular order- a P-38 ace, a 109 ace, and/or a surviving pilot from the 4th. Failing that, I'd take anything I could get and be forever grateful for the opportunity.
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2006, 09:22:38 PM »
does a bomber pilot count?

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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2006, 09:24:33 PM »
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But whenever she gets angry or upset at something going on in America, she remembers all the young men who went to England to help them, and she feels better about being here. Sounds sappy, but shes said it many times over the years.  

Trieze, that's really a very nice story.  It says a lot about your love for your parents - brings a tear to the oldman's eye, it does.

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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2006, 11:47:27 PM »
Absolute wonderful thread!!!!

This is what "our" forums should be chock full of, thanks a million for sharing these photo's, stories, friendships and honoring the ones that made the ultimate sacrifice for thier countries.

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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2006, 08:44:43 AM »
My next door neighbor was Vern Ford.He flew for the Brits before the USA got into war.Later he flew in North Africa.As we shared a few drinks,he was a master story teller,and he was friends with many of the big name aviators we came to know.Later he was test pilot,and flew in the cross country air races.I feel fortunate to have had the chance to share the stories he had to tell.

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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2006, 11:18:36 AM »
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Golfer,

I did that. Windows media player opens the file but it will not play sir.  PS Thanks for helping me with that 262 problem last night.
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