Author Topic: Problem with rig1 (Read 480 times)

WhiteHawk · « **on:** November 03, 2006, 07:14:19 AM »

Rig 1 has gone comatose.!!! No signal to monitor, not boot up at all, no screen, no nuthin. Hard drive active light just stays on from time i push button till time i realize something has gone wrong, terribly wrong. Any Ideas, ive had no time to troubleshoot yet.

Thnx for help.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2006, 11:08:57 AM »

start it ..if it dont fire (post beep) turn it off ..count off 5 seconds ..fire it again .

try this a few times ..if you dont get a post beep ... then you better unplug and reset the cmos .

It happens to mine once and a while (ussually after its been turned off for a long time )

handy169 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2006, 11:42:27 AM »

try a know good PS to the rig and see if that fixes it .. sounds like bad power supply. but i am shooting from the hip. also try flipping the 110/220 switch on it if it has one .. turn it to 220 and back to 110 .. while off ..

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2006, 10:08:52 PM »

thnx guys. Power supply seems good as all the compnant lights are on, but i get no post beeps so maybe the CMOS. It happened right after a power outage.

handy169 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 03, 2006, 10:52:43 PM »

just cause the lights come on doesnt mean the ps is good. thats a really bad misconception. there are different rails +5v and +12v on the powersupply and even though the motherboard and component lights come on can still be bad. take a different powersupply plug it in and then try and power up if it doesn't fix the probably then, your lookings at either CPU/ MB / RAM that being said if it was one of those you should have gotten a BIOS beep code.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2006, 12:01:02 AM »

yea you coulda burned out a rail on the ps .

Silly wrabbit ... you didnt say the power went out .

Kev367th · « **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2006, 12:13:35 AM »

Try -
remove everything from the board apart from:

PSU connection
CPU
Memory

Try to get a BIOS POST screen.

If you get nothing start swapping out
PSU
Memory
CPU

Still get nothing it's the Mobo or BIOS

Schutt · « **Reply #7 on:** November 04, 2006, 05:54:46 AM »

Visually check the motherboard. If you find blown up capacitators, chips which got a brown / rough / bubbled surface, voltage regulators that look burned then the motherboard is no longer good.

Specially network chip and voltage regulators might have gone...

The power supply delivers power on boot and when its got all power output to the desired lvl it delivers a power good signal, which then triggers the boot on the motherboard. Now if the powersupply starts to power up everything but one of the rails doesnt reach the required power lvl there is no power good signal and therefor no boot, despite all lights on.

Also if the voltage regulators on the motherboard went bad it might look similar.

With that problems its good to have a power switch close by (on the power supply or on the power socket). If it starts smoking switch it off

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #8 on:** November 04, 2006, 09:13:29 AM »

ok..reset cmos. Was able to get to my BIOS, but wouldnt load windows. Reset computer and now bootblock comes up, cant get to BIOS and its looking for a system disk. Need adult supervision from this point.

I have abit ic7-max3 MOBO with rig1 and not modified.

THnx for help.

handy169 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 04, 2006, 09:25:12 AM »

*cringes* bootblock isnt a good sign. gonna need to make a bootable floppy disk with lastest bios and flash utility and flash your bios. that being said. also if its booting thats a good sign that your power supply may not be bad though a flaky power supply could still boot and cause damage to your system. but your motherboard may need to be replaced if flashing bios doesn't work. another reason for bootblock to come up can be bad memory. without looking at it directly i am shooting from the hit. but any time power is surged it can reak havoc in multiple places. you could fix one and still have more problems.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #10 on:** November 04, 2006, 09:33:27 AM »

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Originally posted by handy169
*cringes* bootblock isnt a good sign.

Ya, but it was better than what has now transpired. I tried to reset my CMOS again and now I get nuthing. Power looks ok but no hard drive activity light no bios, . If the HD is dead I would get the blue screen of death right? If the CPU is dead, i pretty much get what i am getting now, right? Silver lining, I am gonna get to buy some new stuff

handy169 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 04, 2006, 10:01:58 AM »

well not really .. if it was just the powersupply its a simple matter of switching out the bad one and your back in business.. now its a whole can of worm. if it was just the harddrive you would have gotten a no system found error please insert system disk. if CPU was dead it wouldn't boot up at all. again it could be just bad ram and simply fixed. but in my humble opinion if i have any problems a part i would replace it when possible. cause even if you fix it there could be a possiblity that it may cause problems later on. atleast with a new part you know its suppost to be out of the box working without erros.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2006, 08:13:11 AM »

so after doing some troubleshooting still no prime suspect. The power supply sure looks good as all the lights on the MB are glowing, but that doesnt mean much. The video card wouldnt prevent it from posting (would it?). A bad stick of RAM is a possiblbility, I will try pulling one, then the other shortly. My approach to this problem is to try to eliminate everything, except the MB as that will be the hardest to replace, i have a question thoght. MB's have a small bit of RAM built in right? So even if bad ram I should get SOME HD activity? The HD does absolutley nothing!! A bad HD wouldnt stop it from posting? OR symptoms vary?

THnx for help.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #13 on:** November 05, 2006, 08:30:02 AM »

update. Remove 1 stick of ram and it posts, i can get into bios, but it hangs at the windows splash screen??? hmmmm.

I remember my BIOS needs some adjustments to boot up, but I cant remember. Drats. Rosco? I think i have to disable a cupple of things, do you remember what they are? IC7-max3 not modified.

It keeps rebooting at windows splash screen. Is this due to 1 stick of missing ram? hmmm, we're getting there b'golly.

Wow, put the bad stick of ram back in at it posts, but keeps rebooting at splach screen. Then I remebered I had to disable the fanfail shutdown in bios:D . Keep getting memory erors though. I think i need some new RAM eh?

Now it hangs when I 'load personal settings'. Ah well, I think it be the RAM. Should it run without the bad stick? I still have 512mb

update: Rebooted, and it seems to be working fine???!?!?!:huh . WTF?!?! Oh well, maybe RAM was seated improperly or something. hunh. Learn sumptin new everyday around here.

THnx for help guys

handy169 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 05, 2006, 10:35:24 AM »

it should work with just one stick .. just wont run in dual channel mode. but as i stated before that bad memory can cause those issues

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