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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2006, 10:14:32 AM »
For all you conservatives that believe the polls and have been a bit down in the mouth here's a bit of news:

..... A Pew Research Center poll showed a significant narrowing in the partisan advantage in House races that the Democrats have enjoyed for much of the year, findings that echoed those of a Washington Post-ABC News poll released Saturday....

.....The poll found a drop in Democratic support among independents, but Pew Director Andrew Kohut said the most significant change over the past two weeks is that Republicans now outnumber Democrats among likely voters.

.....A Washington Post-ABC News poll found a similar tightening......Andrew Kohut, the president of the Pew Center, said the poll nonetheless found that Republicans were becoming more enthusiastic as Election Day approached, a sign that the party was making progress in addressing one of its main problems this year: a dispirited base.

....A series of Mason-Dixon polls published on Sunday suggested a tightening in two Senate races, Rhode Island and Maryland, that Democrats had been confident of winning.

.....Democrats, mindful of the Republicans' success in getting their voters to the polls in the past two elections, expressed nervousness at signs of tightening in some national polls.

....Representative Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, the Democrat leading his party’s effort to win control of the House, said, “It’s inevitable that there would be some tightening in the end.”...."I don't know what to make of it,".....“This is making me nervous.”



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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2006, 10:32:13 AM »
polls are crap
If you have worked in marketing research at all, you'd realize this.
they can be slanted to produce the results someone wants to see

"a dispirited base" - who exactly is this? what is the alternative, vote dumbarsecrat? not vote at all and put a dumbacrat in office? Don't think so - I think the dems will be crying foul by 22:00 tomorrow when their victories never materialize ...
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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2006, 11:10:11 AM »
If democrats take over it would give Bush the credit for lowering the deficit :p

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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2006, 11:27:13 AM »
Indeed, the gap is now narrowing...The Republican's just have a stronger base then the Democrats, and they have all woken up...I think most people are sick and tired of the democrats pointing fingers, and simply running on the fact that they arnt George Bush...

Tomorrow is definately going to be a late night, and when dems dont win some of the seats they hoped for, I can gurantee you  they will cry DIEBOLD!....

Anyways....Republicans-  If you have any free time today, please call up the campaign and help GOTV.....

Democrats-  Don't forget the election is Wednesday and polls open at 7am....
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2006, 11:36:55 AM »
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.....The poll found a drop in Democratic support among independents,  


Few days ago I saw another report that I wanted to post here But didnt as I was in a rush when I saw it.
That there is a significant rise among voters registering as independants.



Looks like more and more people are getting sick of these two parties

About 17 percent of voters registered for next week's election eschew major-party identification, according to a study released Thursday by American University's Center for the Study of the American Electorate.

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Here is the source they are using

http://spa.american.edu/spafiles/File/news/csae20071102.pdf
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2006, 07:21:14 PM »
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polls are crap
If you have worked in marketing research at all, you'd realize this.
they can be slanted to produce the results someone wants to see

"a dispirited base" - who exactly is this? what is the alternative, vote dumbarsecrat? not vote at all and put a dumbacrat in office? Don't think so - I think the dems will be crying foul by 22:00 tomorrow when their victories never materialize ...


LOL, OK Eagler, I'm going to call the 2-minute rule.  You have to spend at least 2 minutes perusing previous posts before posting yourself.  ;) You would have found I also believe polls are crap, particularly when used by the press to pre-establish the winners of elections in an attempt to influence voter turnout.  I was simply trying to "buck-up" those that seriously believed the pro-dem hype.  I do agree that when things don't turn out as predicted the Dems will be hysterical...just like after 2004...and 2000.
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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2006, 09:15:01 PM »
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All those polls lean heavily democratic.  I haven't figured out why yet.


Heh. Keep working on it. ;)

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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2006, 09:55:08 PM »
News reports today stated that in the most recent polls the preference of potential voters for democratic candidates has shrunk from a 14 point lead to a 6 point lead in just two weeks.

This indicates that the gains so gleefully anticipated by the democrats may not be as substantial as they'd wish.  Every second term president has seen some loss of support by his own party in mid-term elections.  

The gains may be so meager that any claims of a voter mandate will be rendered null and void.

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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2006, 09:59:42 PM »
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If democrats take over it would give Bush the credit for lowering the deficit :p


Ahem:

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Federal Budget Deficit Falls to Lowest Point in Four Years
By Randy Hall
CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor
October 11, 2006

(CNSNews.com) - The federal deficit for the budget year that ended on Sept. 30 dropped to just under $248 billion, its lowest level since 2002. While President Bush hailed the development as "a dramatic reduction" in government red ink, Democrats responded that the total is "one of the largest in our nation's history."

According to a report released by the Bush administration on Wednesday, the 2006 fiscal year deficit was $71 billion or 22.3 percent less than last year and lower than just three months ago, when the president noted that deficit reduction was a year ahead of schedule.

Both the Office of Management and Budget and the Congressional Budget Office credit the improved totals to increased federal receipts. During 2006, revenues grew by 12 percent to reduce the deficit to its smallest amount in four years, when its $159 billion shortfall ended a four-year run of budget surpluses.
   


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200610/POL20061011e.html

Not bad, considering a recession started in 2001, then 9/11, then then the war, then Katrina
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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2006, 10:26:57 PM »
I find it amusing that the pollsters claim there is a change with Republicans gaining points. The "change" is either due to inaccuracy in their polling methods or dishonesty with intent to manipulate the elections imo.

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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2006, 10:31:42 PM »
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Ahem:

 

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200610/POL20061011e.html

Not bad, considering a recession started in 2001, then 9/11, then then the war, then Katrina


and it will go much lower thats IF the democrats take power

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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2006, 10:40:40 PM »
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and it will go much lower thats IF the democrats take power


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« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2006, 02:50:27 AM »
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six...  How do the republicans do that?    I thought all they wanted to do was allow the union members to act as individuals if they chose?  that these individuals could tell the union to stop wasting the money they gave them on political parties that were not of their choice?

lazs


It's a democracy Lazs, you vote, that's how it works. The minority can't tell the majority what to do and how to do it. It's why you elect who you do. If you and a majority wanted to elect someone who would put his/her resources towards fighting to keep guns, would you want a minority to tell him/her to put those resources to other things? Of course not, the majority of you voted otherwise and expect that to get done. You elect union members.

We, as a union, spend big money on arbitration, to fight for our cola, our sick time, our health care, etc. And we back politicians that help our cause, so why would we listen to a few in the minority who don't want us to back a politician because of his/her views on abortion? That's pretty stupid, don't you think? I am sure you could care less about a politician's view on abortion as long as he shared your view on guns.

And if those union members feel that strongly, they can always pull their union dues and send the check elsewhere, it's that simple. And in Ma., you have to represent a non-union employee, it's the law or the union can get sued.

No one puts a gun to your head to join a union, I have yet to see anyone fight to leave a union, I see many trying to get in though.

Well, I have to take a nap, going to support Healey tomorrow(even though she is not strong for unions, the union is still letting me vote for her, imagine that!) so I hope those polls are wrong.
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2006, 03:48:57 AM »
It is possible that at one time the poll takers were honest and maybe even ethical.

I stopped paying attention to polls back in the mid 90s.

I got called several times to participate in polls.

Realized from the questions asked that many polls were slanted toward what the people paying for the poll wanted as an answer.

I stopped being part of polls, and giving any credence to the same, at that point.
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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2006, 06:02:52 AM »
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and it will go much lower thats IF the democrats take power


Ok I'll bite...WHEN has there been a history of the Democrats being fiscally responsible? And don't say in the 90's--- the projections up through 2000 showed 200 million dollar deficits until Newt came in in '94

Oh yah: we need an AH poll for HOW MANY lawsuits are gonna be filed today alleging fraud, voter intimidation, etc. ---I'm saying......9
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