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Offline rpm

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« on: November 04, 2006, 11:31:33 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2006, 11:42:47 AM »
Unfortunately, dragging billions of fish out of the ocean with huge nets each year will cause extinction.  But the problem is pretty complicated.  Say the U.S. decides to reduce fishing by 90%.  Well it turns out, alot of our food fishes migrate across the entire ocean, so we would have to stop other countries from fishing too.  

Aquaculture needs to be ramped up.  Marine sanctuaries need to be established.  Mangrove swamps, which are a nursery for fish, need to be replanted.  But the main thing, fishing just needs to be slowed or halted.  

Besides purified fish oil, I rarely eat fish from the ocean, and never from lakes.  Fish are so contaminated with mercury, pcbs, and dioxins that there is no health benefit from eating them.  If you like fish, go ahead and eat them.  But just be wary, if you start to feel fatigued for no reason, then its possible you are suffering from mercury poisoning.

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2006, 11:46:37 AM »
Not to worry
in a few hundred years Scotty will come back and save us all
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2006, 11:48:52 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2006, 11:50:02 AM »
no more fish? YYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEE!

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2006, 11:58:03 AM »
:cry  poor fishies :cry

What will i have to eat then?

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2006, 11:58:47 AM »
every problem facing the world, global warming, declining energy resources, world hunger, pollution, wars over land, etc, have one root cause, over population, there are just too many people and it's going to get worse.

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2006, 12:00:48 PM »
All the more reason to start shooting the illegals at the border
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2006, 12:00:52 PM »
Not all oceans in the world will crash into death of seafood at once, - so the theory is kind of naive.
However, we're on the road downhill, and as has been experienced with overfishing etc, it will take decades to restore.
Then we have an increased pollution factor as well as a warming factor which may change habitats and confuse the ecosystems in the seas (i.e. the North Sea is 3 degrees Celcius warmer now than normally)
My country almost went to a war status with Britain, - it was all about fish. The fish around Iceland was being sucked up at an alarming rate. So, - eventually the fishing grounds became ours, but the damage was enough for us to adapt a very strict quota system that has stayed for some 20 years. The fish is slowly restoring while the European community has basically nuked the North sea, - the Cod (which we fought our Cod wars over, but at home) in the North sea is almost completely gone.
Recently, the world community is upset about recent Icelandic whaling. Yes we did start whaling again.
Everybody is shocked, and the season is over with some 5 or so whales done.
Every ocean fish and mammal is a part of he system. The whales go far for their food, and some species of them are in danger while other are overpopulating at the moment. Typically, for the equilibrum, the whales that were caught were in relatively poor condition - thin. Not enough to eat.
That means too many whales for what they have.
Sort of shows that the downhill is a good guess, but the time given is very questionable. When fish stocks crash, the fishing becomes uneconomical, so it depends, as so many other environmental things, on the MONEY.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2006, 12:03:24 PM »
Well said john..

Id like to add greed and lazy attitudes to that. Doesnt take much effort by us in the rich part of the world either to help the situation.

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2006, 12:03:55 PM »
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Just use common sense.  There are more and more humans (6+ Billion), but there are not more fish.  More humans need more food.  Wheres the easiest place to get that additional food?  The ocean.

Hmmm, what group of people would like you to believe that the oceans are doing ok- Marine biologists?  Wildlife conservationists?  Or commercial fishermen?  I'll let you choose.

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2006, 12:07:54 PM »
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Not all oceans in the world will crash into death of seafood at once, - so the theory is kind of naive.
However, we're on the road downhill, and as has been experienced with overfishing etc, it will take decades to restore.
Then we have an increased pollution factor as well as a warming factor which may change habitats and confuse the ecosystems in the seas (i.e. the North Sea is 3 degrees Celcius warmer now than normally)
My country almost went to a war status with Britain, - it was all about fish. The fish around Iceland was being sucked up at an alarming rate. So, - eventually the fishing grounds became ours, but the damage was enough for us to adapt a very strict quota system that has stayed for some 20 years. The fish is slowly restoring while the European community has basically nuked the North sea, - the Cod (which we fought our Cod wars over, but at home) in the North sea is almost completely gone.
Recently, the world community is upset about recent Icelandic whaling. Yes we did start whaling again.
Everybody is shocked, and the season is over with some 5 or so whales done.
Every ocean fish and mammal is a part of he system. The whales go far for their food, and some species of them are in danger while other are overpopulating at the moment. Typically, for the equilibrum, the whales that were caught were in relatively poor condition - thin. Not enough to eat.
That means too many whales for what they have.
Sort of shows that the downhill is a good guess, but the time given is very questionable. When fish stocks crash, the fishing becomes uneconomical, so it depends, as so many other environmental things, on the MONEY.


Im all for the whaling that we do up here in the north sea now. Its controlled and the population of whales is back up to a level were its ok to take out a few again.

Iceland, Norway and Russia have a special responsobility to control the fishing out there. The 3 of us can basicly control how much the EU can pull out of the sea as most of the areas are controlled by either of the 3 countries.

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2006, 12:10:47 PM »
I guess that means 50 years from now if I want to fix a box of tuna helper, I will have to go to the black market to purchase a can of tuna
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2006, 12:18:00 PM »
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Just use common sense.  There are more and more humans (6+ Billion), but there are not more fish.  More humans need more food.  Wheres the easiest place to get that additional food?  The ocean.



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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2006, 12:33:42 PM »
You just convinced me to go to "Marissa's" and get a big bowl of zuppa da pesch....(might as well contribute to killing them, all at once!)
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